Reid Still Looking to Introduce Forced Unionizing Bill

[JBeukema]

The bill is titled the Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act and would force all local, city, county, and state police and firefighter unions to operate under nationalized union rules created by union bosses based in Washington D.C. This bill would take away the power of local governments to control their own first responders and this would necessarily take away all power from you, the voters, too.

Reid tried to get cloture on this one last week but did not get it done. We are still on the watch for him to push this abomination against local control at any time.

Reid Still Looking to Introduce Forced Unionizing Bill | Right Wing News

 

[WillowTree]

Reid is a communist.

 

[Common Sense]

hmmm right wing news............ obviously a legitimate news souce

and the actual article you posted goes on to say the following:

"The Senate may soon consider a bill that would force states to allow for the unionization of public employees."

so basically all this is going is allowing public employees to unionize. (not that im for unions at all) but i dont see how the forces people to join a union? also labor unions do have a national presence with local chapters. so im not sure how this takes away from local government negotiations?

 

[WillowTree]

hmmm right wing news............ obviously a legitimate news souce

not for people who read in da dark.

 

[Intense]

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D–NV) recently reintroduced the Public Safety Employer-Employee Cooperation Act in an attempt to rush it through Congress before Republicans take control of the House in January. This legislation would mandate collective bargaining for police, firefighters, and emergency medical personnel—even in states that have passed laws to ensure this can’t happen.

Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty made headlines today with his editorial against government unions. It is no secret that unions have increasingly resorted to government employees to boost membership. Minnesota has 362,000 union members, and Governor Pawlenty has had his fair share of battles to keep taxpayers from footing the bill.

Government is the easy way to avoid pesky things like efficiency and competition. In September, Heritage expert James Sherk exposed the fact that since last year, most union workers now collect a check paid for by taxpayers. Some of that money is automatically deposited into union coffers to pay for their dues. This is made possible through a taxpayer-funded payroll system.

The rise of government unions has had many troubling effects.

Federal workers already receive up to 22 percent more than their private counterparts, resulting in $47 billion in additional taxes.
Many states force government employees to join a union or lose their job.
Since the beginning of the recession, private sector employment has fallen while federal employment has risen. Government employees have not faced the same hard decisions that many Americans have confronted during the recent economic decline.
Unions are able to take the money they receive from their members and lobby for increased wages in the form of more taxes.
Congress should let each state decide whether it wants to force its taxpayers to fund overpaid union employees.

States Should Not Be Forced to Unionize | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

 

[Common Sense]

(b) Rights and Responsibilities- In making a determination described in subsection (a), the Authority shall consider a State's law to substantially provide the required rights and responsibilities unless such law fails to provide rights and responsibilities comparable to or greater than the following:
(1) Granting public safety officers the right to form and join a labor organization, which may exclude management employees, supervisory employees, and confidential employees, that is, or seeks to be, recognized as the exclusive bargaining representative of such employees.
(2) Requiring public safety employers to recognize the employees' labor organization (freely chosen by a majority of the employees), to agree to bargain with the labor organization, and to commit any agreements to writing in a contract or memorandum of understanding.
(3) Providing for the right to bargain over hours, wages, and terms and conditions of employment.
(4) Making available an interest impasse resolution mechanism, such as fact-finding, mediation, arbitration, or comparable procedures.
(5) Requiring enforcement of all rights, responsibilities, and protections provided by State law and enumerated in this section, and of any written contract or memorandum of understanding between a labor organization and a public safety employer, through--
(A) a State administrative agency, if the State so chooses; and
(B) at the election of an aggrieved party, the State courts.


SEC. 5. ROLE OF FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY.

(a) In General- Not later than 1 year after the date of enactment of this Act, the Authority shall issue regulations in accordance with the rights and responsibilities described in section 4(b) establishing collective bargaining procedures for employers and public safety officers in States which the Authority has determined, acting pursuant to section 4(a), do not substantially provide for such rights and responsibilities.
(b) Role of the Federal Labor Relations Authority- The Authority, to the extent provided in this Act and in accordance with regulations prescribed by the Authority, shall--
(1) determine the appropriateness of units for labor organization representation;
(2) supervise or conduct elections to determine whether a labor organization has been selected as an exclusive representative by a voting majority of the employees in an appropriate unit;
(3) resolve issues relating to the duty to bargain in good faith;
(4) conduct hearings and resolve complaints of unfair labor practices;
(5) resolve exceptions to the awards of arbitrators;
(6) protect the right of each employee to form, join, or assist any labor organization, or to refrain from any such activity, freely and without fear of penalty or reprisal, and protect each employee in the exercise of such right; and
(7) take such other actions as are necessary and appropriate to effectively administer this Act, including issuing subpoenas requiring the attendance and testimony of witnesses and the production of documentary or other evidence from any place in the United States, and administering oaths, taking or ordering the taking of depositions, ordering responses to written interrogatories, and receiving and examining witnesses.
(c) Enforcement-
(1) AUTHORITY TO PETITION COURT- The Authority may petition any United States Court of Appeals with jurisdiction over the parties, or the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, to enforce any final orders under this section, and for appropriate temporary relief or a restraining order. Any petition under this section shall be conducted in accordance with subsections (c) and (d) of section 7123 of title 5, United States Code.
(2) PRIVATE RIGHT OF ACTION- Unless the Authority has filed a petition for enforcement as provided in paragraph (1), any party has the right to file suit in any appropriate district court of the United States to enforce compliance with the regulations issued by the Authority pursuant to subsection (b), and to enforce compliance with any order issued by the Authority pursuant to this section. The right provided by this subsection to bring a suit to enforce compliance with any order issued by the Authority pursuant to this section shall terminate upon the filing of a petition seeking the same relief by the Authority.

the word "mandate" is actually nowhere to be found in the bill
Bill Text - 111th Congress (2009-2010) - THOMAS (Library of Congress) (its Senate Bill S3991 no S3391 btw, just incase anyone else tries to search for it)

the bill allows for them to legally unionize, although it doesnt require them to

 

[JBeukema]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

 

[PixieStix]

"Union"...and "government" in the same sentence means only one thing...control of the people.

 

[Common Sense]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

give me reasons this is a bad bill?

 

[JBeukema]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

give me reasons this is a bad bill?

That's not the way it works.

You want to pass a law, you gotta make a case for passing it.

Thanks for admitting you have no case for yet another federal power grab

 

[Quantum Windbag]

hmmm right wing news............ obviously a legitimate news souce

and the actual article you posted goes on to say the following:

"The Senate may soon consider a bill that would force states to allow for the unionization of public employees."

so basically all this is going is allowing public employees to unionize. (not that im for unions at all) but i dont see how the forces people to join a union? also labor unions do have a national presence with local chapters. so im not sure how this takes away from local government negotiations?

You are still demonstrating your complete lack of common sense.

 

[Trajan]

when becker got a recess appt. to the NLRB this was all written, if they cannot get card check through legislation via congress, they'll use the agencies to write codes to basically make it so, as closely as possible.

 

[The T]

"Union"...and "government" in the same sentence means only one thing...control of the people.

We need another Reagan to put the unions in their place as he did to the ATC Strike in the 80's.

Make them drop to their knees.

 

[Avatar4321]

Where is all this legislation coming from? You can't possibly tell me that since the November elections legislators have come up with so much legislation on their own. I mean heck some of this legislation is 2000+ pages. Where is it coming from?

 

[hortysir]

Where is all this legislation coming from? You can't possibly tell me that since the November elections legislators have come up with so much legislation on their own. I mean heck some of this legislation is 2000+ pages. Where is it coming from?

Same place as usual.
Soros

 

[Intense]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

give me reasons this is a bad bill?

Unions are already too corrupt.
Unions already have too much power in politics.
Unions have too much power and control over their members lives and ours because of what they effect.
Unionism is not compatible with Federalism, Republican Government, and the Free Market.
Unions are not necessary, labor laws can easily replace the little good that Unions do without the Thuggery, and corruption.
Every Union benefit is paid for by the rest of us in one form or another.
Unionism protects incompetence and mediocrity.
Unions corrupt and contaminate the ranks of Government, Comrade. You are too heavy a parasite , have outgrown the host, and need to go.

 

[JBeukema]

Where is all this legislation coming from? You can't possibly tell me that since the November elections legislators have come up with so much legislation on their own. I mean heck some of this legislation is 2000+ pages. Where is it coming from?

Same place as usual.
Soros

Yes, the Master Jew strikes again

 

[The T]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

give me reasons this is a bad bill?

Unions are already too corrupt.
Unions already have too much power in politics.
Unions have too much power and control over their members lives and ours because of what they effect.
Unionism is not compatible with Federalism, Republican Government, and the Free Market.
Unions are not necessary, labor laws can easily replace the little good that Unions do without the Thuggery, and corruption.
Every Union benefit is paid for by the rest of us in one form or another.
Unionism protects incompetence and mediocrity.
Unions corrupt and contaminate the ranks of Government, Comrade. You are too heavy a parasite , have outgrown the host, and need to go.

Unions are Corporations in their own right who's product is human labour and shouldn't be treated by the left with any less distain as they have for any other big corporation.

And therin lies the contradiction of the left and those that favour UNIONS.

 

[Dr Grump]

They already can and do unionize

give three good reasons to pass this bill

give me reasons this is a bad bill?

1) Freedom of choice
2) Freedom of choice
3) Freedom of choice

 

[Dr Grump]

Unions are not necessary, labor laws can easily replace the little good that Unions do without the Thuggery, and corruption.

I disagree with this one. Govt is open to lobby groups. Most lobbyists are fairly rich and are usually employers. Remember it was the thuggery and bullying tactics of employers that made unions necessary in the first place