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Public employment increased during recessions under Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43. But now with a Republican House of Representatives, a compromised/filibustered Senate in coordination with Republican Governors and legislatures have fired 600,000 public sector workers since 2008, combined with the reverse of Keynes multiplier factor we get the economy the Republicans planned.

Weakening the American economy gives aid and comfort to our enemies.





Public-sector austerity in one graph - The Washington Post


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On Friday, I ran some numbers on public-sector employment:
Since Obama was elected, the public sector has lost about 600,000 jobs. If you put those jobs back, the unemployment rate would be 7.8 percent.

But what if we did more than that? At this point in George W. Bush’s administration, public-sector employment had grown by 3.7 percent. That would be equal to a bit over 800,000 jobs today. If you add those hypothetical jobs, the unemployment rate falls to 7.3 percent.
Today, Ben Polak, chairman of the economics department at Yale University, and Peter K. Schott, professor of economics at the Yale School of Management, widen the lens, with similar results:
There is something historically different about this recession and its aftermath: in the past, local government employment has been almost recession-proof. This time it’s not.

Going back as long as the data have been collected (1955), with the one exception of the 1981 recession, local government employment continued to grow almost every month regardless of what the economy threw at it. But since the latest recession began, local government employment has fallen by 3 percent, and is still falling. In the equivalent period following the 1990 and 2001 recessions, local government employment grew 7.7 and 5.2 percent. Even following the 1981 recession, by this stage local government employment was up by 1.4 percent...

Without this hidden austerity program, the economy would look very different. If state and local governments had followed the pattern of the previous two recessions, they would have added 1.4 million to 1.9 million jobs and overall unemployment would be 7.0 to 7.3 percent instead of 8.2 percent.
In the graph atop this post, I ran the numbers on total government employment after the 1981, 1990, 2001 and 2008 recessions. I made government employment on the eve of the recession equal to “1,” so what you’re seeing is total change in the ensuing 54 months, which is how much time has elapsed since the start of this recession.
As you can see, government employment tends to rise during recessions, helping to cushion their impact. But with the exception of a spike when we hired temporary workers for the decennial census, it’s fallen sharply during this recession.

Note that a Republican was president after the 1981, 1990 and 2000 recessions. Public-sector austerity looks a lot better to conservatives when they’re out of power than when they’re in it.
 
Don't cha understand people that public sector jobs don't stimulate the economy? Public sector employees are paid by state and local government. Where does the government get the money? That's right they confiscate it sometimes at the point of a gun from the citizens. The net growth is zero. Didn't you learn anything in economy 101 or was it taught by municipal workers?
 
we get the economy the Republicans planned

dear, BO had a super majority. All Republicans voted against stimulus that BO passed. Then the BO stimulus failed. What does that tell you?
 
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dear, BO had a super majority. All Republicans voted against stimulus that BO passed. Then the BO stimulus failed. What does that tell you?

that congressional republicans are using the system in a way the founders didnt intend

actually the founders did 100% intend the system be used to protect freedom from big liberal government. Stupid????

and protect freedom from big corporations.
 
that congressional republicans are using the system in a way the founders didnt intend

actually the founders did 100% intend the system be used to protect freedom from big liberal government. Stupid????

and protect freedom from big corporations.

too stupid!!!

1) there were no big corporations then

2) why would we want freedom from them anyway when they provide our jobs, the products that got us from the stone age to here, and made us the richest people in human history

3) also how can 1000's of corporations competing against each other to please us just to survive threaten our freedom???

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, very slow??
 
actually the founders did 100% intend the system be used to protect freedom from big liberal government. Stupid????

and protect freedom from big corporations.

too stupid!!!

1) there were no big corporations then

2) why would we want freedom from them anyway when they provide our jobs, the products that got us from the stone age to here, and made us the richest people in human history

3) also how can 1000's of corporations competing against each other to please us just to survive threaten our freedom???

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, very slow??

When American colonists declared independence from England in 1776, they also freed themselves from control by English corporations that extracted their wealth and dominated trade. After fighting a revolution to end this exploitation, our country's founders retained a healthy fear of corporate power and wisely limited corporations exclusively to a business role. Corporations were forbidden from attempting to influence elections, public policy, and other realms of civic society.

Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals. Enabling shareholders to profit was seen as a means to that end

History of Corporations (United States)
 
Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals.

you said you wanted protection from corporations.

Do you want to make say the fortune 500 illegal for your protection??
 
Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals.

you said you wanted protection from corporations.

Do you want to make say the fortune 500 illegal for your protection??

no, I said our founding fathers sought protection of freedom from big corporations.
 
Initially, the privilege of incorporation was granted selectively to enable activities that benefited the public, such as construction of roads or canals.

you said you wanted protection from corporations.

Do you want to make say the fortune 500 illegal for your protection??

no, I said our founding fathers sought protection of freedom from big corporations.

but of course there is no comparison whatsoever since they didn't remotely resemble modern corporations that exist in the millions today and compete with each to raise our standard of living at the fastest rate possible just to survive in a wonderful capitalist environment. Plus, the tiny handful there were then were granted government monopolies in Europe to exploit the people for the benefit of the government.

It was so trivial an issue here that the Constitution did not mention it or even allude to it, let alone seek protection from them in the Constitution.

That you think you need protection from corporations is testimony to how perfectly 100% brainwashed you are. Its just as stupid as thinking the Great Depression was great as you do.
What you need is to pray they will , for example, invent a cancer cure by time you need it or will continue to invent all the other new stuff that makes our life so much beyond subsistence. We don't need to be protected from them when they are our protectors. Its like wanting protection from your mother. Over your brainwashed head truth matters??
 
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Don't cha understand people that public sector jobs don't stimulate the economy? Public sector employees are paid by state and local government. Where does the government get the money? That's right they confiscate it sometimes at the point of a gun from the citizens. The net growth is zero. Didn't you learn anything in economy 101 or was it taught by municipal workers?

economy 101? You obviously missed that class.

Every one of those public sector workers has to eat right? They live somewhere, right? They buy gas and food and clothes and cable tv and toasters.

If you think their spending doesnt stimulate the economy, then you dont understand how the economy works.
 
Don't cha understand people that public sector jobs don't stimulate the economy? Public sector employees are paid by state and local government. Where does the government get the money? That's right they confiscate it sometimes at the point of a gun from the citizens. The net growth is zero. Didn't you learn anything in economy 101 or was it taught by municipal workers?

economy 101? You obviously missed that class.

Every one of those public sector workers has to eat right? They live somewhere, right? They buy gas and food and clothes and cable tv and toasters.

If you think their spending doesnt stimulate the economy, then you dont understand how the economy works.
Since gubmint has no money of its own, all of those "created" jobs in the bureaucracy take money away from the private sector that could be used for productive pursuits.

Parable of the broken window
 
actually the founders did 100% intend the system be used to protect freedom from big liberal government. Stupid????

and protect freedom from big corporations.

too stupid!!!

1) there were no big corporations then

2) why would we want freedom from them anyway when they provide our jobs, the products that got us from the stone age to here, and made us the richest people in human history

3) also how can 1000's of corporations competing against each other to please us just to survive threaten our freedom???

See why we are positive a liberal will be slow, very slow??



Never heard of the East India Tea Company, have you?


Go find out WHY we threw the Tea in the harbor, then get back to us.

Amazing how you make such wildly ignorant statements and then have the gall to call other people slow.
 
Don't cha understand people that public sector jobs don't stimulate the economy? Public sector employees are paid by state and local government. Where does the government get the money? That's right they confiscate it sometimes at the point of a gun from the citizens. The net growth is zero. Didn't you learn anything in economy 101 or was it taught by municipal workers?

economy 101? You obviously missed that class.

Every one of those public sector workers has to eat right? They live somewhere, right? They buy gas and food and clothes and cable tv and toasters.

If you think their spending doesnt stimulate the economy, then you dont understand how the economy works.
Since gubmint has no money of its own, all of those "created" jobs in the bureaucracy take money away from the private sector that could be used for productive pursuits.

Parable of the broken window

Like creating a consumer base?

Doesnt matter how many widgets you have to sell if theres no one to buy them...go check up on Henry Ford and youll see what I mean.
 
If you think their spending doesnt stimulate the economy, then you dont understand how the economy works.

of course it doesn't stimulate it depresses. If the tax money was not stolen it would create 2 jobs in the competitive private sector where you live and die by having the best product in the world. A government job has no competition at twice the price. Imagine what cars would be like if they were made by one government monopoly. In Hungary in 1985 you had to back them up a hill because the carburetors were gravity feed, and you a dip stick to check gas level.

Now even a liberal can see the trade off between capitalism and liberalism?
 
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economy 101? You obviously missed that class.

Every one of those public sector workers has to eat right? They live somewhere, right? They buy gas and food and clothes and cable tv and toasters.

If you think their spending doesnt stimulate the economy, then you dont understand how the economy works.
Since gubmint has no money of its own, all of those "created" jobs in the bureaucracy take money away from the private sector that could be used for productive pursuits.

Parable of the broken window

Like creating a consumer base?

Doesnt matter how many widgets you have to sell if theres no one to buy them...go check up on Henry Ford and youll see what I mean.
Henry Ford used and risked his own money.

Keynesians are nothing more than overdressed and overeducated alchemists.
 

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