Rangle Joins The Chorus

Annie

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Well we can guess that he thinks the Muslims will be kind to blacks. On the other hand, sure doesn't explain the Euro take.


http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/06/hysteria-of-charles-rangel.html

Hysteria of Charles Rangel
The rhetorical horse once again bolts and runs away from the Dems:

Top House Democrat Charles Rangel complained on Monday that the Bush administration's decision to concoct a "fraudulent" war in Iraq was as bad as "the Holocaust."

"It's the biggest fraud ever committed on the people of this country," Rangel told WWRL Radio's Steve Malzberg and Karen Hunter. "This is just as bad as six million Jews being killed. The whole world knew it and they were quiet about it, because it wasn't their ox that was being gored."

It's not actually quite as bad as it seems:

Asked to clarify his Holocaust comparison, Rangel told Malzberg: "I am saying that people's silence when they know terrible things are happening is the same thing as the Holocaust, where everyone would have me believe that no one knew those Jews were killed over there."

Initially I though, this is not as bad as it seems; Rangel is not making a grossly offensive comparison of the liberation of 26 million people from tyranny with the killing of 6 million Jews. What a relief. He's merely making a stupid, inaccurate, and hysterical comparison of the public reactions to both events. Stupid, inaccurate, and hysterical, because after all, Iraq, in all its aspects and from all the perspectives, is the most talked about issue in the world today.

But then I reread Rangel's comments. This is what he's saying:

The officials in the Roosevelt Administration knew that the Holocaust was going on, but kept quiet and did nothing about it (not wanting at this point to get involved in a debate whether the Holocaust could have been "stopped", for example by bombing the death camps or the train lines leading thereto; but remembering that at all times the United States was actually engaged in a total war against the perpetrators of the same Holocaust).

The officials in the Bush Administration knew that the war in Iraq was "fraudulent" and "terrible things [were] happening", but kept quiet and did nothing about it.

So, you see, it's actually worse than it looks, because Rangel is comparing the moral callousness of an Administration about atrocities being committed by somebody else, with the moral callousness of another Administration about atrocities being committed by that Administration. In the Rangel moral universe, therefore, bringing freedom and democracy to millions of Iraqis is as bad as killing six million Jews - both horrible enterprises should have been stopped by the US government but weren't.

In a week that saw Guantanamo Bay described a gulag, I can't say I'm too surprised any more by Rangel's remarks.
# posted by Arthur : 7:15 AM
 
Sir Evil said:
When political figures like this banana speak then you can understand the ignorance of some of the lefts comments. The left is filled with so much hatred towards the right that these type of comments sound believable to left supporters and therefore more hatred is created. Figures like Rangel should never hold any type of political office, a pure disgrace!
Well someone elected him. :rolleyes: It scares me that people might see this as 'leadership' of one sort or another.
 
Kathianne said:
Well someone elected him. :rolleyes: It scares me that people might see this as 'leadership' of one sort or another.[/QUOTE

Marion Barry was relected too (after jail time); white powder all over his nose and all.

If people like this, along with Jesse and Al, would spend half the time on real issues that they spend on muddying the race waters, certain issues might actually get somewhere.
 
Sir Evil said:
It scares me even more that some buy into this and the direction the left is taking.

I agree. See what's happening at ground zero? (another thread). I'm about to post a link that everyone can work with.
 
Looking at all the possible Democratic candidates for '08 makes me extremely nervous. Finding a nut case in the Republican party is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Finding a nut case in the Democratic party is like finding hay in a haystack. No prejudice or malice intended, Just my observation.
 
Kathianne said:
Well we can guess that he thinks the Muslims will be kind to blacks. On the other hand, sure doesn't explain the Euro take.


http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/06/hysteria-of-charles-rangel.html

And the soldiers are all in lock step chorus with their marching orders to demand Bush's head on a platter. Even Rosie O'donnel is yapping her big mouth now saying Bush should be impeached.

These people are so transparent and vile it's vomitous!!
 
Sir Evil said:
It scares me even more that some buy into this and the direction the left is taking.

John I told you so a few days ago, but you were all poo poo Bonnie, have no worries about those failed people poo poo........LOL Im just teasing you.....But I was right :poke: :thanks:
 
http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2005/06/hysteria-of-charles-rangel.html

Thursday, June 09, 2005
Hysteria of Charles Rangel
The rhetorical horse once again bolts and runs away from the Dems:

Top House Democrat Charles Rangel complained on Monday that the Bush administration's decision to concoct a "fraudulent" war in Iraq was as bad as "the Holocaust."

"It's the biggest fraud ever committed on the people of this country," Rangel told WWRL Radio's Steve Malzberg and Karen Hunter. "This is just as bad as six million Jews being killed. The whole world knew it and they were quiet about it, because it wasn't their ox that was being gored."

It's not actually quite as bad as it seems:

Asked to clarify his Holocaust comparison, Rangel told Malzberg: "I am saying that people's silence when they know terrible things are happening is the same thing as the Holocaust, where everyone would have me believe that no one knew those Jews were killed over there."

Initially I though, this is not as bad as it seems; Rangel is not making a grossly offensive comparison of the liberation of 26 million people from tyranny with the killing of 6 million Jews. What a relief. He's merely making a stupid, inaccurate, and hysterical comparison of the public reactions to both events. Stupid, inaccurate, and hysterical, because after all, Iraq, in all its aspects and from all the perspectives, is the most talked about issue in the world today.

But then I reread Rangel's comments. This is what he's saying:

The officials in the Roosevelt Administration knew that the Holocaust was going on, but kept quiet and did nothing about it (not wanting at this point to get involved in a debate whether the Holocaust could have been "stopped", for example by bombing the death camps or the train lines leading thereto; but remembering that at all times the United States was actually engaged in a total war against the perpetrators of the same Holocaust).

The officials in the Bush Administration knew that the war in Iraq was "fraudulent" and "terrible things [were] happening", but kept quiet and did nothing about it.

So, you see, it's actually worse than it looks, because Rangel is comparing the moral callousness of an Administration about atrocities being committed by somebody else, with the moral callousness of another Administration about atrocities being committed by that Administration. In the Rangel moral universe, therefore, bringing freedom and democracy to millions of Iraqis is as bad as killing six million Jews - both horrible enterprises should have been stopped by the US government but weren't.

In a week that saw Guantanamo Bay described a gulag, I can't say I'm too surprised any more by Rangel's remarks.
 

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