Radical New Congress Constitution rule irks House Democrats

The left needs this crutch, the right doesn't. Simple, really.

Only a really simple minded person would call an attempt to give air time to alternative political and social views a "crutch".

Only a really simpleminded person would call the NEED to be given air time, instead of being able to earn it like one's competitors, anything BUT a crutch.

And only a TRUE SIMPLETON who doesn't understand what the Fairness Doctrine was and WHY it existed would make a statement such as yours, Cecelie. For your education:

FAIRNESS DOCTRINE - The Museum of Broadcast Communications
 
CeCelie1200 is a broken-record homer, no sense, no reason, no real Americanism.

We are all served best by fair play, not one-sided revisionism unfounded in our history despite her blathering.

No wonder we got beat in 2008 with morons like her on our side.

Does she realize that her mindset is an open door to a fascist state?
 
Every time I see this thread I laugh.

The Idea that a congress elected on the idea of cutting spending and limiting federal Power is Radical is just to funny.

A clear example of just how far out of touch liberals are today.
 
Don't group all the righty ladies equally, though. I disagree with much Foxfyre has to say, but she says it well and almost always politely. Chanel can be much tougher but take the time to read her. Stephanie is simply amusing; I mean it, she is fun. CeCelie1200 is simply rabid dog. WillowTree? I like her, period.
 
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Every time I see this thread I laugh.

The Idea that a congress elected on the idea of cutting spending and limiting federal Power is Radical is just to funny.

A clear example of just how far out of touch liberals are today.

Charlie...go back and read the opening post of this thread so you'll know WTF you're talking about.
 
Fitz, WTF are you babbling about? This stupid ass mantra by willfully ignorant neocon parrots that ANY gov't regulation is akin to socialism followed by communism is so absurd.....WITHOUT gov't regulations YOUR life becomes devoid of all the things you EXPECT to make you safe (food and product quality, interstate roads and rails, airlines (gov't subsidies, etc.). The airwaves belong to the PEOPLE, and subsequently must be made to deliver quality information.....which means that you DON'T have a monopoly with one viewpoint being broadcast.

So again, if jokers like you Fitz feel that TV News is SO liberally biased, why fight a regulation that would give YOUR viewpoints a better shot at equalizing the odds?

This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.
 
Fitz, WTF are you babbling about? This stupid ass mantra by willfully ignorant neocon parrots that ANY gov't regulation is akin to socialism followed by communism is so absurd.....WITHOUT gov't regulations YOUR life becomes devoid of all the things you EXPECT to make you safe (food and product quality, interstate roads and rails, airlines (gov't subsidies, etc.). The airwaves belong to the PEOPLE, and subsequently must be made to deliver quality information.....which means that you DON'T have a monopoly with one viewpoint being broadcast.

So again, if jokers like you Fitz feel that TV News is SO liberally biased, why fight a regulation that would give YOUR viewpoints a better shot at equalizing the odds?

This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. I give back what I get....and when people make negative generalizations/accusations against me just because I disagree with them, I respond in kind. What pisses YOU off, Fitz, is that I can back up what I say with FACTS and the logic that is derived from those facts. YOU can't. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. You can repeat that lie until doomsday, Fitz...but reality has a way of putting that BS in check. Hell, Factcheck.org and other media watchdogs have DOCUMENTED the bias and slanted news coverage by FOX over the years. Here, for your education: The Most Biased Name in News They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

Once again, Fitz parrots the neocon party line....heavy on the headlines but missing the DETAILS of the story. For those of you that don't know, Williams had been at odds with NPR for a LONG time, as his appearances on FOX political review panel resulted in him voicing opinions and viewpoints that CONTRADICTED core values of NPR that Williams was a representative and headliner of. Essentially, it's like having a member of the GOP keep showing up at Dem fundraisers and touting the Dem agenda. After awhile, the home team is going to cut you loose.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Which means absolutely NOTHING, Fitz, as your demonstrated neocon myopia constantly deviates from reality, as I've demonstrated in our exchanges. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

:confused: A fantastic claim by Fitz.....if only he could provide ANY historically valid documentation to support his allegation. If Fitz only had the personal honesty to READ the link I provided regarding the Fairness Doctrine, he would know that the chronology of history does not match his questionable recollection.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.

As you can see, folks....when willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots like Fitz encounter historical facts and the logic that makes a fool of them, they just babble lame insults, supposition and conjecture and right wingnut rhetoric in the hopes that no one will notice . Check out Posts #350 & #352 to see what has sent Fitz into such a tizzy. To date, Fitz cannot/will not answer a simple question: If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?
 
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Fitz, WTF are you babbling about? This stupid ass mantra by willfully ignorant neocon parrots that ANY gov't regulation is akin to socialism followed by communism is so absurd.....WITHOUT gov't regulations YOUR life becomes devoid of all the things you EXPECT to make you safe (food and product quality, interstate roads and rails, airlines (gov't subsidies, etc.). The airwaves belong to the PEOPLE, and subsequently must be made to deliver quality information.....which means that you DON'T have a monopoly with one viewpoint being broadcast.

So again, if jokers like you Fitz feel that TV News is SO liberally biased, why fight a regulation that would give YOUR viewpoints a better shot at equalizing the odds?

This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. I give back what I get....and when people make negative generalizations/accusations against me just because I disagree with them, I respond in kind. What pisses YOU off, Fitz, is that I can back up what I say with FACTS and the logic that is derived from those facts. YOU can't. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. You can repeat that lie until doomsday, Fitz...but reality has a way of putting that BS in check. Hell, Factcheck.org and other media watchdogs have DOCUMENTED the bias and slanted news coverage by FOX over the years. Here, for your education: The Most Biased Name in News They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

Once again, Fitz parrots the neocon party line....heavy on the headlines but missing the DETAILS of the story. For those of you that don't know, Williams had been at odds with NPR for a LONG time, as his appearances on FOX political review panel resulted in him voicing opinions and viewpoints that CONTRADICTED core values of NPR that Williams was a representative and headliner of. Essentially, it's like having a member of the GOP keep showing up at Dem fundraisers and touting the Dem agenda. After awhile, the home team is going to cut you loose.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Which means absolutely NOTHING, Fitz, as your demonstrated neocon myopia constantly deviates from reality, as I've demonstrated in our exchanges. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

:confused: A fantastic claim by Fitz.....if only he could provide ANY historically valid documentation to support his allegation. If Fitz only had the personal honesty to READ the link I provided regarding the Fairness Doctrine, he would know that the chronology of history does not match his questionable recollection.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.

As you can see, folks....when willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots like Fitz encounter historical facts and the logic that makes the full of them, they just babble lame insults, supposition and conjecture and right wingnut rhetoric in the hopes that no one will notice . Check out Posts #350 & #352 to see what has sent Fitz into such a tizzy. To date, Fitz cannot/will not answer a simple question: If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?

And who decides what is fair?

The whole idea of the government deciding what is Fair, and regulating what we hear, is completely unamerican.


Not that I would expect such a hard core lefty to understand that.
 
Making sure all sides heard is hardly unAmerican and certainly is constitutionally conservative.
 
This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. I give back what I get....and when people make negative generalizations/accusations against me just because I disagree with them, I respond in kind. What pisses YOU off, Fitz, is that I can back up what I say with FACTS and the logic that is derived from those facts. YOU can't. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. You can repeat that lie until doomsday, Fitz...but reality has a way of putting that BS in check. Hell, Factcheck.org and other media watchdogs have DOCUMENTED the bias and slanted news coverage by FOX over the years. Here, for your education: The Most Biased Name in News They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

Once again, Fitz parrots the neocon party line....heavy on the headlines but missing the DETAILS of the story. For those of you that don't know, Williams had been at odds with NPR for a LONG time, as his appearances on FOX political review panel resulted in him voicing opinions and viewpoints that CONTRADICTED core values of NPR that Williams was a representative and headliner of. Essentially, it's like having a member of the GOP keep showing up at Dem fundraisers and touting the Dem agenda. After awhile, the home team is going to cut you loose.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Which means absolutely NOTHING, Fitz, as your demonstrated neocon myopia constantly deviates from reality, as I've demonstrated in our exchanges. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

:confused: A fantastic claim by Fitz.....if only he could provide ANY historically valid documentation to support his allegation. If Fitz only had the personal honesty to READ the link I provided regarding the Fairness Doctrine, he would know that the chronology of history does not match his questionable recollection.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.

As you can see, folks....when willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots like Fitz encounter historical facts and the logic that makes the full of them, they just babble lame insults, supposition and conjecture and right wingnut rhetoric in the hopes that no one will notice . Check out Posts #350 & #352 to see what has sent Fitz into such a tizzy. To date, Fitz cannot/will not answer a simple question: If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?

And who decides what is fair?


The whole idea of the government deciding what is Fair, and regulating what we hear, is completely unamerican.

Actually, the various stations had controll as to how the FD was administered.....there was NO SET TIME FRAME MANDATED IN THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE....so whether it was a half hour slot or hour slot, etc., the stations would determine the time alotted for view points contrary to their status quo, based upon their individual formats.


Not that I would expect such a hard core lefty to understand that.

That Charley is Main(ly) dealing from ignorance regarding the Fairness Doctrine is the basis for his viewpoints and assertions.
 
Fitz, WTF are you babbling about? This stupid ass mantra by willfully ignorant neocon parrots that ANY gov't regulation is akin to socialism followed by communism is so absurd.....WITHOUT gov't regulations YOUR life becomes devoid of all the things you EXPECT to make you safe (food and product quality, interstate roads and rails, airlines (gov't subsidies, etc.). The airwaves belong to the PEOPLE, and subsequently must be made to deliver quality information.....which means that you DON'T have a monopoly with one viewpoint being broadcast.

So again, if jokers like you Fitz feel that TV News is SO liberally biased, why fight a regulation that would give YOUR viewpoints a better shot at equalizing the odds?

This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. I give back what I get....and when people make negative generalizations/accusations against me just because I disagree with them, I respond in kind. What pisses YOU off, Fitz, is that I can back up what I say with FACTS and the logic that is derived from those facts. YOU can't. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. You can repeat that lie until doomsday, Fitz...but reality has a way of putting that BS in check. Hell, Factcheck.org and other media watchdogs have DOCUMENTED the bias and slanted news coverage by FOX over the years. Here, for your education: The Most Biased Name in News They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

Once again, Fitz parrots the neocon party line....heavy on the headlines but missing the DETAILS of the story. For those of you that don't know, Williams had been at odds with NPR for a LONG time, as his appearances on FOX political review panel resulted in him voicing opinions and viewpoints that CONTRADICTED core values of NPR that Williams was a representative and headliner of. Essentially, it's like having a member of the GOP keep showing up at Dem fundraisers and touting the Dem agenda. After awhile, the home team is going to cut you loose.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Which means absolutely NOTHING, Fitz, as your demonstrated neocon myopia constantly deviates from reality, as I've demonstrated in our exchanges. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

:confused: A fantastic claim by Fitz.....if only he could provide ANY historically valid documentation to support his allegation. If Fitz only had the personal honesty to READ the link I provided regarding the Fairness Doctrine, he would know that the chronology of history does not match his questionable recollection.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.

As you can see, folks....when willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots like Fitz encounter historical facts and the logic that makes the full of them, they just babble lame insults, supposition and conjecture and right wingnut rhetoric in the hopes that no one will notice . Check out Posts #350 & #352 to see what has sent Fitz into such a tizzy. To date, Fitz cannot/will not answer a simple question: If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?
I see. And if government decides that progressive taxation is unfair and repeals the 16% amendment and put in place a consumption tax, eliminating the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor will this be fair?
 
Fitz's question with a question dodges the question, ineffectively though, while trying dodging the original quesiton, which is equally ineffective as a tactic. taichiliberal has knocked Fitz off the ropes and his getting ready to knock his argument out of the ring.
 
This is why you can't be involved in nice conversations. I give back what I get....and when people make negative generalizations/accusations against me just because I disagree with them, I respond in kind. What pisses YOU off, Fitz, is that I can back up what I say with FACTS and the logic that is derived from those facts. YOU can't. You freak out over Fox News as being ultra conservative when their NEWS broadcasting is very balanced all things considered. You can repeat that lie until doomsday, Fitz...but reality has a way of putting that BS in check. Hell, Factcheck.org and other media watchdogs have DOCUMENTED the bias and slanted news coverage by FOX over the years. Here, for your education: The Most Biased Name in News They hired Juan Williams instantly after the liberal demagogue purists at NPR fired him for working for a 'right wing' organization.

Once again, Fitz parrots the neocon party line....heavy on the headlines but missing the DETAILS of the story. For those of you that don't know, Williams had been at odds with NPR for a LONG time, as his appearances on FOX political review panel resulted in him voicing opinions and viewpoints that CONTRADICTED core values of NPR that Williams was a representative and headliner of. Essentially, it's like having a member of the GOP keep showing up at Dem fundraisers and touting the Dem agenda. After awhile, the home team is going to cut you loose.

I don't see REAL conservatives on ANY other channel save to be attacked by the hosts and rest of the panels assembled. Which means absolutely NOTHING, Fitz, as your demonstrated neocon myopia constantly deviates from reality, as I've demonstrated in our exchanges. Sorry, but we conservatives remember how bad it was before the repeal of this worthless legislation. Any yutz with a phone or typewriter could stop real ideological debate because they could complain and shut down everything that disagreed with them, so no real debate was possible.

:confused: A fantastic claim by Fitz.....if only he could provide ANY historically valid documentation to support his allegation. If Fitz only had the personal honesty to READ the link I provided regarding the Fairness Doctrine, he would know that the chronology of history does not match his questionable recollection.

But, since you don't get this, please feel free to go back to the friendly confines of the Huffpoo and MSNBS whe you can feel more at home with your radical leftwing insanity of fake impartiality and tolerance.

As you can see, folks....when willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots like Fitz encounter historical facts and the logic that makes the full of them, they just babble lame insults, supposition and conjecture and right wingnut rhetoric in the hopes that no one will notice . Check out Posts #350 & #352 to see what has sent Fitz into such a tizzy. To date, Fitz cannot/will not answer a simple question: If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?
I see. Given your demonstrated neocon myopia, I seriously doubt it. But hope speaks eternal...let's see if Fitz actually sees the light. And if government decides that progressive taxation is unfair and repeals the 16% amendment and put in place a consumption tax, eliminating the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor will this be fair?

And as you can see folks, Fitz is like all willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots....when Fitz could NOT answer a simple question (If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?), could not offer valid documentation to support his assertions and allegations, and was given valid documentation that his assertions were wrong, Fitz merely moves the goal post by trying to put forth some clap trap hypothetical that has NOTHING to do with what the Fairness Doctrine was about.

Sorry Fitz, but your ploy won't work.....the burden of proof is on YOU, as the chronology of the posts shows. Stay on target and answer accordingly, and maybe then I'll address your ridiculous hypothetical.
 
Making sure all sides heard is hardly unAmerican and certainly is constitutionally conservative.

Yes, But how do you do it. Who makes sure the people making sure it is fair, are being fair.

Hmmm?

Designate somebody to give a rebuttal, no longer no shorter in length and germane to the promprt.

A simple solution....but that would mean airing a contrary opinion that might contain facts that would logically prove the status quo wrong.....that's garlic to a vampire for the neocons and right wingnuts.

Thing was, the Fairness Doctrine left it up to the stations to determine counter-point air time. So in a 12 hour broadcasting time, you had to have at least 1/2 hour of alternate viewpoint. :eek: Shocking!
 
And as you can see folks, Fitz is like all willfully ignorant and insipidly stubborn neocon parrots....when Fitz could NOT answer a simple question (If he believes that the news media has such a terrible liberal bias, then why would he be against legislation that would INSURE that conservative viewpoints have a fighting, if not equal, chance?), could not offer valid documentation to support his assertions and allegations, and was given valid documentation that his assertions were wrong, Fitz merely moves the goal post by trying to put forth some clap trap hypothetical that has NOTHING to do with what the Fairness Doctrine was about.

Sorry Fitz, but your ploy won't work.....the burden of proof is on YOU, as the chronology of the posts shows. Stay on target and answer accordingly, and maybe then I'll address your ridiculous hypothetical.

:wtf:

First off, typing in red doesn't give you any more credibility than it does make you a moderator.

Second of all, the only thing you've done is run your mouth. I don't bother to bust my hump pulling links you habitually ignore or make excuses on why they're not true all the while screaming "Victory is Mine".

So show me where it's best to continue talking to you let alone entertaining your delusions of intelligence?
 

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