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Sic Semper Tyrannis!
I believe in capitalism too. I don't believe that healthcare--necessary for life itself--should have ever become a profit/loss business. This is the only country in which corporations try to profit from the health (or lack of) of its citizens.
People aren't buying cars here--they're trying to obtain life-sustaining care or treatment. And this should be doled out by profiteers? When did we enter this bizarro world???
Right, so people who build houses, (shelter, necessary for life) should not make profits.
Grocery stores and farmers sell and produce food (definitely need for sustaining life) no profits for them either. Probably no restaurants either -- by extension.
Is the point getting through? That's a silly argument.
No it isn't. Grocery stores are hardly big profit makers. Same for most builders. Why should the health insurance companies be making profits of 428$?? Find me a builder (which many in my family have been in for generations) who make that sort of profit.
Aside from that though, medical care is not handled like this in any other country. I don't think people should be able to profit because they condemned a person to death because of a "pre-existing" condition, that they won't pay for--although the person has been paying them hundreds of dollars each month for coverage.
Yes, IT IS, REALLY.
Grocery stores are not big business? You really want to go down that road? Check the profits on Kroger, Safeway, Wegman's, Balducci's etc.
Builders don't make profits like "that" whatever "that" is. My suspicion is you don't know what "that" is either, you've just decided that you don't like this particular "hated industry du jour" to make any money no matter what it is. So, check the profits on companies like Beazer, Centex, D.R. Horton, Lennar etc. and tell me they make no money (well, when the housing market isn't in collapse, that is).
I noticed you were smart enough not to mention farmers because you didn't want to talk about ADM and ConAgra. Nevertheless, all of those items are far more important to life than medical care or insurance. You need them daily to live. I haven't "needed" a doctor in decades. I've "wanted" one more recently, but "needed?" Not since Jimmy Carter was President.
Your second argument is a complete fallacy. You are arguing against the status quo and nobody supports the status quo including the insurance companies.
There are definite improvements that need to be made to the way health care coverage is provided in this country. Insurance companies cannot continue to not cover pre-existing conditions. Insurance needs to be less expensive. Markets for individuals, small businesses and other companies need to be opened across state lines allowing for expanded risk pools, increasing competitions and lowered prices. There is a role for government in creating a market framework where all health insurers can participate if they agree to basic rules about pre-existing conditions etc. Tort reform needs to be included to reduce unnecessary procedures and reduce medical costs (the English rule of torts needs to be implemented, loser pays).
So nobody is saying keep it like it is. But the solution is not replace it with a system we know will fail because it has failed everywhere it has been tried.