PubliusInfinitum thinks Obama is a foreigner

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    And NOT a natural born citizen.

    Please PubliusInfinitum... enlighten us. Tell us what's wrong with my sig and how Obama is not a natural born citizen.
     
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    No, sir. That is NOT an electronic copy. The photographs that I showed you are actual PAPER copies. It is what ALL short form birth certificates from the State of Hawaii look like. In every single legal challenge so far, Obama's SHORT FORM birth certificate has been shown and every single legal challenge has been thrown out due to prima facie.

    We have PROOF, Yurt. You and the other Conspiracy Theorists just don't accept it. That's your problem.
     
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    LMAO....you didn't read the statutes did you....i told you to

    hey moron...it was NOT thrown out due to proof, BUT FOR LACK OF STANDING....sheesh, do you listen to anything anyone tells you or do you like looking like a fool? what you see IS NOT THE ORIGINAL...it is a COMPUTER generated copy. it does NOT contain all the information in the original, that is a fact, undisputed the world over.

    now, let's see if you can wrap your head around this:

    prima facie - it is clear you did not look it up as i asked, so i am now forced to do your homework for you. prima facie evidence merely raise a PRESUMPTION of a fact, it is as i said before not conclusive. once someone has established a prima facie case, the burden then shifts to the other party to PROVE the prima facie evidence is false (i'm cliff noting here as it relates to thsi case)....in this case, the courts never allowed the other party to present any evidence to rebut obama's NON-ORIGINAL copy of his birth certificate. the courts threw out the challenges......are you ready

    only for lack of standing

    so no rebuttal evidence has ever been allowed to counter obama's prima facie case that his birth certificate is valid...

    i believe it is valid, however, the issue is, what is he hiding in the original and why is he fighting so hard to HIDE the original, going to so far as TO ORDER IT SEALED.

    david, don't make me do you homework again, show some respect...

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    and david....why do you think it is called a SHORT form? do ya think maybe cause there is a LONGER form??????
     
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    Yep, all of the rumors are correct. The president is a foreign born crypto-Islamic closet commie who performs gay sex acts in exchange for narcotics. I heard it on a conservative blog and on Rushbo; shit must be true.
     
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    I'm of the mind ... that this is the worst conspiracy theory ever!
     
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    imagine, just imagine had obama not been an asshole and just released a copy of the original, then all those people who think he is nto a citizen can stfu...but no, mr. open and transparent decides to play hide the ball....unlike mccain

    quite telling
     
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    Meh, I never had the original copy of my birth certificate, it got destroyed in a basement flood more than 20 years ago. You really think the government would waste so much time hiding the citizenship of someone? Why? To what gain? They could have found a million people with easier to find credentials who "play ball" ... so why would they waste this much effort to hide it for just one? What do they gain from it?
     
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    we are not talking about your birth certificate, we are talking about obama's....the state of HI said the original exists and the original has been ordered sealed....do me a favor and read my post to david again....obama is HIDING it, not the government, sheeesh, read what i said

    the governor of HI or whoever is in charge of the records over there said ONLY obama could order the birth certificate unsealed or a order a copy.

    i am amazed you support the theory that citizens lack standing to verify constitutional eligibility to run for office and the best evidence.........is the original, that is not a dispute, it is a fact
     
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    Why would the government support hiding it? Do you somehow think he paid off everyone in office? Even those who hate his guts as much as many of us? Seriously? Why would it be hidden?
     
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    WTF???????????

    who said the government is hiding it???

    it is under seal, it is not hidden, OBAMA is hiding it by not showing it, NOT THE GOVERNMENT
     

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