President Trump announces new tariffs: 25% for steel, 10% for aluminum

Discussion in 'Politics' started by basquebromance, Mar 1, 2018.

  1. The Derp
    Offline

    The Derp BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    9,620
    Thanks Received:
    659
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ratings:
    +3,205
    I don't accept third-hand anecdotal accounts as evidence, and no one does. So instead of making shit up to justify your fucking stupid argument, how about providing some actual proof, or just shutting the fuck up?


    It never really did that anyway. Secondly, it doesn't matter because automation is what is killing jobs. So what are you going to do about that? Stop innovation?


    I never said no visas, so this is you doing that Conservative thing where you mangle and distort what someone else said because you lack the confidence to make an argument not against a straw man.


    1. Why didn't he hire Americans?
    2. What does it matter how many he sought and for how long he sought them?
    3. How is this a defense of your argument?


    Where did I ever say I supported visas? Where? Nowhere. So you're doing that shitty Conservative thing of creating straw men and then arguing against those.
     
  2. Indeependent
    Online

    Indeependent Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    27,597
    Thanks Received:
    2,353
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +13,566
    You hate Trump so you make up shit.

    I live in Nassau County and we are flooded with the illegals you say aren’t coming across the border.
    Yes we have open borders and I don’t give a shit about your Trump bashing tirades.

    Trump?
    Some wealthy areas with spoiled brat ultra wealthy kids have trouble getting summer help.
     
  3. The Derp
    Offline

    The Derp BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    9,620
    Thanks Received:
    659
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ratings:
    +3,205
    I didn't make up a co-worker, and then make up a cousin of that co-worker to argue some nonsense about open borders. You did that. Own it.


    Nassau county is in NY, not on the border. And are you sure they're illegals? Not everyone who speaks Spanish is an illegal immigrant, you racist asshole.



    Maybe try offering higher wages, that way you don't have to import foreigners to take jobs.
     
  4. Indeependent
    Online

    Indeependent Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    27,597
    Thanks Received:
    2,353
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +13,566
    They are illegals.
    They are squatters.
    They eventually get evicted.

    Higher wages?
    For someone who seems smart you’re pretty stupid.
    Corporate America wants cheap Indian H1-Bs.
    Software development is a Business Expense.
    IT has no associations to fight for them, so the industry has been gutted out of non-Indian BVs.
    Now you’re going to tell me that the only nation on earth that produces code monkeys is India.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  5. The Derp
    Offline

    The Derp BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    9,620
    Thanks Received:
    659
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ratings:
    +3,205
    You're a poseur.
    You're a posturer.
    You will eventually have to own up to being a bullshitter.

    You literally make up people to lend your argument credibility it doesn't otherwise have. That's deranged.


    Yes, higher wages is how you attract labor. So here you're arguing that foreigners should take jobs for Americans because the business owner doesn't want to pay a wage high enough to attract workers. So how is your argument not one giant circle jerk? You lament foreigners coming in on visas, yet oppose raising wages which would discourage work visas. It's a circle jerk of an argument. And you're voluntarily eating the cracker.


    Look, the solution is really simple; if you want fewer foreign workers, you have to offer higher wages and better benefits. But you don't want to do that; so you're stuck in a masturbatory argument.
     
  6. Indeependent
    Online

    Indeependent Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    27,597
    Thanks Received:
    2,353
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +13,566
    Then why is corporate America pushing for BVs for well paid Attorneys, Accountants, Electrical and Mechanical Engineer and MDs?

    If anything, NO business wants to pay a penny more than necessary.

    The fact is that you hate Trump so you make up bullshit.
     
  7. Indeependent
    Online

    Indeependent Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    27,597
    Thanks Received:
    2,353
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +13,566
    For your enlightenment...
    HR633
    S744
    Both packed into the Dream Act.
    Replace 10 currently well paid professions with, per annum, 160,000 BVs in each profession.

    And you think Corporate America has any desire to raise wages for unprotected professions.

    You’re a clown.
     
  8. The Derp
    Offline

    The Derp BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    9,620
    Thanks Received:
    659
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ratings:
    +3,205
    They're not well paid compared to their American counterparts. The entire purpose of work visas is to import cheaper labor. That's why they do it. So while attorneys and the like are well paid, attorneys on visas are paid less than American attorneys.


    Right, so you can't claim the people running the business are patriotic Americans.


    I do hate Trump, but I don't need to make shit up about him to justify my distaste.
     
  9. The Derp
    Offline

    The Derp BANNED

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2017
    Messages:
    9,620
    Thanks Received:
    659
    Trophy Points:
    205
    Ratings:
    +3,205
    When did I ever say that? Never. So this is you creating a straw man. I am not a friend or ally of corporate America and I know that they will do everything they can to squeeze worker wages.
     
  10. Indeependent
    Online

    Indeependent Gold Member Gold Supporting Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2013
    Messages:
    27,597
    Thanks Received:
    2,353
    Trophy Points:
    265
    Ratings:
    +13,566
    The bottom line is that Trump is looking out for Americans, but the fact that he decided to put an R next to his name drives you nuts.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1

Share This Page