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I realize the topic has finally gotten some attention.
Even the goofy Lindsay Goober Graham (that fictional middle name courtesy of Mark Levin) seems to have finally caught on a little as evidencef by his grilling of our douchebag Attorney General today.
But what the fuck? Let US discuss it.
As Levin has phrased it, so shall I. Under WHAT law shall we "try" these al qaeda shitballs in a U.S. Court of Law?
If it is U.S. Constitutional Law, then these shitballs are as good as freed, for we DID detain the vermin for a long period of time with no access to lawyers. We QUESTIONED the fuckers without lawyers. We got statements from the pussys without the benefit of legal counsel. The fuckstains GOT no Miranda warnings. Their statements were elicited by what the left already calls "torture" (even though it isn't torture); it was certainly under duress. Those statements MUST, in the ordinary course of things, be precluded from use as evidence ath the trial of the shitfuckers.
But wait! There's more!
They have by God (allah akbar) rights to DISCOVERY. Some of the intel that led to their being caught is (almost certainly) going to be that "classified intel" which The New York Times loves to publish. So, their lawyers are absolutely going to make discovery demands for those documents. The dilemma is then readily exposed. Does the government give criminal defendants the documents as the LAW usually requires (thereby giving classified intel TO the VERY fuckwads we most want to keep it away from) -- OR -- to AVOID giving classified intel to the very shitsuckers we most urgently want to avoid giving it to, should the Government refuse to give criminal defendants required discovery CONTRARY to their by God (allah akbar) Constitutional rights? Deprive them of their due process rights and the case might well have to get dismissed.
And what happens then? If some Court orders KSM released (i.e., the case dismissed), does the Government comply? If not, what IS the basis for holding him? If so, are we actually maintaining that the Islamofilth who killed so many civilians by targetting them in blatantly illegal acts of war should be "let go?"
The fucking Attorney General sounded like a goddamned bubbling moron today. Kudos to Graham. But what the fuck was he thinking and why does our idiot President not just FIRE Attorney General Holder?
Does the idiot man-child President not have enough fucking sense to fire the disastrously and utterly incompetent Attorney General? Holder HAS TO GO!
they were read miranda rights. they have/had lawyers and waterboarding was ruled not to be torture. you are quite dense, worse than even the other hannity rejects you tag along with
Moron (yes, blu, that menas you, you 'tard):
You have zero evidence that anybody ever read KSM his Miranda warnings, you liar.
Even if he HAD been read Miranda warnings, do you imagine that's "good enough" if (when he invokes his "right" to remain silent) he then gets waterboarded into making the inculpatory statement? Jeez are you stupid.
I don't believe that waterboarding qualifies as "torture," but even as non "torture," it certainly qualifies as compelling a person to speak, you shithead. That's kind of the whole point, in fact, ya turdbreath.
Not only is there effectively no way on Earth the statements made under duress are going to be ruled "admissible," that's not even the end of the problems. As I noted in the OP, there are OTHER huge stumbling blocks. They were HELD for a very motherfucking LONG time without contact with counsel. Did you ever fucking HEAR of due process, you schmuck?
This "case" (AS a criminal justice matter) is a clusterfuck from the word "go." That wouldn't normally be a problem since the reality is: it never actually WAS a criminal justice matter, you fucking imbecile.
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