POLL: Serious question for Trump supporters: The Future

[Not2BSubjugated]

Charming.

Your evasion? I would call it, more, predictable intellectually cowardice. You said something stupid and wrong. You got called on it. So you change lanes to a little hissy fit.

I specified later in the post that I wasn't attributing the inconsistency to you, personally, and then presented an argument against precisely what you said. If you'd read the whole thing and not just respond to the first word, we might have a more productive conversation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Charming.

Your evasion? I would call it, more, predictable intellectually cowardice. You said something stupid and wrong. You got called on it. So you change lanes to a little hissy fit.

I specified later in the post that I wasn't attributing the inconsistency to you, personally, and then presented an argument against precisely what you said. If you'd read the whole thing and not just respond to the first word, we might have a more productive conversation.

I seriously doubt that. You started by chastising people for not knowing what socialism is, while completely getting it wrong yourself. Then you tried to gloss over your mistake. So no, i doubt this is going anywhere. And you will repeat the same nonsense, the first chance you get.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Charming.

Your evasion? I would call it, more, predictable intellectually cowardice. You said something stupid and wrong. You got called on it. So you change lanes to a little hissy fit.

I specified later in the post that I wasn't attributing the inconsistency to you, personally, and then presented an argument against precisely what you said. If you'd read the whole thing and not just respond to the first word, we might have a more productive conversation.

I seriously doubt that. You started by chastising people for not knowing what socialism is, while completely getting it wrong yourself. Then you tried to gloss over your mistake. So no, i doubt this is going anywhere. And you will repeat the same nonsense, the first chance you get.

so·cial·ism
/ˈsōSHəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: socialism

1. a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

This is not what you've described. What you've described are welfare services that exist within the context of a regulated free market system, wherein the vast majority of all business and industry is owned privately.

Your argument is with the dictionary, not me.

And, in the future, when it's actually YOU looking to back out of the conversation, maybe don't accuse the other guy of being an intellectual coward?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This is not what you've described.

False. Socialized insurance is exactly what I have described. Socialized education as well, and, often, infrastructure.

Socialism is a good thing, when used properly. So is Capitalism. We do both. It's a mixed system.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

This is not what you've described.

False. Socialized insurance is exactly what I have described. Socialized education as well, and, often, infrastructure.

Socialism is a good thing, when used properly. So is Capitalism. We do both. It's a mixed system.

Sorry, but you're simply of the common misconception - and it is a misconception - that socialism means any service that's provided by the government. That's what's false, here.

Even if you limited socialism to the concept of education, it would imply the nationalization of all education. We don't have that in the US. Private schools are all over the place.

We don't have socialized insurance. We have a social safety net, but even if socialism were confined to this context, it would imply that all insurance was collectively owned and provided by the government. This is not the case by a long shot.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there's some actual academic definition out there that implies that socialism just means the government providing a service. I've provided you a dictionary definition. Perhaps you could provide some definition or link, rather than simply isolating one word of my post, telling me I'm incorrect, and then reiterating what you've already said.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry, but you're simply of the common misconception - and it is a misconception - that socialism means any service that's provided by the government.

Falae. It is the control of both production and distribution. As in, for instance, insurance. Socialized insruance is precisely what medicare and medicaid are.

People worry that they will take less profit if insurance is more socialized, so they pay liars to scare you.

This isn't complicated.

 

[Andylusion]

Sorry, but you're simply of the common misconception - and it is a misconception - that socialism means any service that's provided by the government.

Falae. It is the control of both production and distribution. As in, for instance, insurance. Socialized insruance is precisely what medicare and medicaid are.

People worry that they will take less profit if insurance is more socialized, so they pay liars to scare you.

This isn't complicated.

And Medicare and Medicaid suck. Both need eliminated.

They will bankrupt this country dude. Go read the trustees report.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And Medicare and Medicaid suck.

Nonaense. They are both good insuramce and eliminating them wpuld be a national crisis.

I didnt read the rest, I'm sure it doesnt get smarter as it goes.

 

[Rustic]

This is not what you've described.

False. Socialized insurance is exactly what I have described. Socialized education as well, and, often, infrastructure.

Socialism is a good thing, when used properly. So is Capitalism. We do both. It's a mixed system.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The future

Because men have woke up with the majority for trump and agreeing the deep state is guilty of high treason

They will rise up to stop this crooked system and bring logic tests for voters

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Sorry, but you're simply of the common misconception - and it is a misconception - that socialism means any service that's provided by the government.

Falae. It is the control of both production and distribution. As in, for instance, insurance. Socialized insruance is precisely what medicare and medicaid are.

People worry that they will take less profit if insurance is more socialized, so they pay liars to scare you.

This isn't complicated.

More claims, but still zero attempts at substantiating that definition you keep throwing around.

 

[Andylusion]

And Medicare and Medicaid suck.

Nonaense. They are both good insuramce and eliminating them wpuld be a national crisis.

I didnt read the rest, I'm sure it doesnt get smarter as it goes.

Your Pension Is a Lie: There's $210 Trillion Of Liabilities Our Government Can't Fulfill

Nonsense. Math proves you are wrong.

Thankfully I didn't have to read all of your arguments....because of course you have none.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

but still zero attempts at substantiating that definition you keep throwing around.

*except for in every single post i made to you.

You're a freak. Go beg someone else for attention.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Nonsense. Math proves you are wrong.

No it doesn't, dumbass. That article doesn't speak to the quality of insurance. It speaks to idiot republicans refusing to fund it., because they exist to protect rich people.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

but still zero attempts at substantiating that definition you keep throwing around.

*except for in every single post i made to you.

You're a freak. Go beg someone else for attention.

No, you seem to be confusing the idea of making a claim with the idea of substantiating a claim. Common mistake, these days.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No, you seem to be confusing the idea of making a claim with the idea of substantiating a claim.

False, as evidenced by every single post i made to you. You are just pretty much publicly masturbating, at this point.

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

No, you seem to be confusing the idea of making a claim with the idea of substantiating a claim.

False, as evidenced by every single post i made to you. You are just pretty much publicly masturbating, at this point.

Lol! And the pattern persists. Here, I'll go line by line and break this concept down for you.​

You're describing welfare. Socialism is the nationalization of industry.

Like, insurance. Which is precisely what Medicaid, Medicare, social security, and farm subsidies are. Nationalized insurance. Nationalized industry.

Same for public education, public infrastructure, and more...

See, when you say that Medicaid, Medicare, social security, and farm subsidies are the insurance industry being nationalized, that's a claim. A substantiation would be where you offered evidence of that claim, or some supporting argument. Notice that the argument/evidence supporting that point are absent? There's only the bare claim.

"Same for public education. . ." Also a claim. No supporting anything.

This is not what you've described.

False. Socialized insurance is exactly what I have described. Socialized education as well, and, often, infrastructure.

Socialism is a good thing, when used properly. So is Capitalism. We do both. It's a mixed system.

"False." Claim. "Socialized insurance is exactly what I have described." Claim. "Socialized education as well, and, often, infrastructure." Claim.

"Socialism is a good thing, when used properly." Claim. "So is Capitalism." Claim. "We do both." Claim. "It's a mixed system." Claim. Literally every line in this post was a claim. There's literally nothing left that you might call a substantiating argument.

Sorry, but you're simply of the common misconception - and it is a misconception - that socialism means any service that's provided by the government.

Falae. It is the control of both production and distribution. As in, for instance, insurance. Socialized insruance is precisely what medicare and medicaid are.

People worry that they will take less profit if insurance is more socialized, so they pay liars to scare you.

This isn't complicated.

"False." Claim. "It is the control of both production and distribution." Claim. "As in, for instance, insurance." Now this, you might argue that this is a substantiation. Unfortunately, it is, in and of itself, an unsubstantiated claim, which leaves your argument, as a whole, unsubstantiated. "Socialized insurance is precisely what medicare and Medicaid are." Claim.

"People worry that they will take less profit if insurance is more socialized, so they pay liars to scare you." Claim.

So. . . we seeing a pattern yet? All claims, no backing.

I'll give you this, I haven't offered much substantiation, either. I did, however, post the actual dictionary definition of socialism. You've yet to post or even try to explain where you're getting your definitions from, bud.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

See, when you say that Medicaid, Medicare, social security, and farm subsidies are the insurance industry being nationalized, that's a claim

And a factual one at that.

Thanks, I have always wanted an assistant.

Your next assignment (I have plenty of light work for you):

Explain to that dummy up there that public education is nationalized education, and that public infrastructure is nationalized infrastructure.