POLL--31% voting for Obama BELIEVE they are going to get a TAX CUT!

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Oh my God--this claim by Obama is probably the biggest farce I have seen in my 55 years. Coming from Obama's campaign rhetoric that he is only going to tax 5% of the population making over 250K & give 95%--or the rest of us a tax cut!

Frankly, I cannot believe that anyone would believe this huge farce. Let alone 31% of Americans--according to this poll--that are voting for Obama simply because they think they're going to get a tax cut with Obama as POTUS. Maybe this 31% represent the 40% in this country that pay no income taxes anyway, & they are looking for their welfare checks?

Now in the final days--we see that this 250K figure has come down to 150K according to Joe Biden, & then to 120K according to Democrat govenor Bill Richardson. This bar is going to come down much lower than this.

Obama states that we are "selfish" if we don't want to give the government more of our hard earned dollars. Yet, Americans are the most generous people on this earth. We still donate more money to people in need in this country & all over the world.

LET'S FACE IT FOLKS! There is no possible--accountable way that 5% of the population or those making over 250K per year, can give us all a tax break, pay for Obama's additional 1 TRILLION in new spending proposals, & give us all national health care insurance at the same time. It simply cannot be done. The only other place Obama can go for all this new spending & tax cuts is the middle class of this country. He will then re-distribute it to people who pay no income taxes.

If you're one of middle class tax payers in this country, voting for Obama simply because you believe you're going to get a tax cut, you are going to be extremely disappointed.
 
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Now in the final days--we see that this 250K figure has come down to 150K according to Joe Biden, & then to 120K according to Democrat govenor Bill Richardson.

Both defined the middle class in seperate income levels. Neither candidate said "If you make over $120k or $150k you'll get a tax increase." It's a semi-gaffe by both of them and you know it.

Obama states that we are "selfish" if we don't want to give the government more of our hard earned dollars.

Who's we? Do you earn $250,000 net a year?

LET'S FACE IT FOLKS! There is no possible--accountable way that 5% of the population or those making over 250K per year, can give us all a tax break, pay for Obama's additional 1 TRILLION in new spending proposals, & give us all national health care insurance at the same time. It simply cannot be done. The only other place Obama can go for all this new spending & tax cuts is the middle class of this country. He will then re-distribute it to people who pay no income taxes.

If you're one of those tax payers in this country, voting for Obama simply because you believe you're going to get a tax cut, you are going to be extremely disappointed.

Wait, so you're saying that we're going to have yet another presidency in which we increase the national debt? Shocker of all shockers! Of course he can't pay for it with the budget we have now... that's why he has to cut the budget in some places. McCain can't afford to pay for his $2500/$5000 refundable tax credit either. Bush couldn't afford the billions of dollars that we've spent on Iraq and Afghanistan. This is nothing new. Adding to the national debt will not hurt our economy or cost any jobs. The change in Obama is an administration that actually cares about its people and the world around it. That's change. To talk with our enemies instead of blowing them up, to provide REAL health insurance instead of giving multi-billion dollar health insurance companies massive tax cuts.
 
They better hurry and lower those expectations, because there is little doubt that Obama will raise taxes on everyone above at least $42k per year, he already voted in favor of that.

Elections and promises have nothing to do with reality.
 
mccain's proposals add $7 trillion to our national debt in 10 years, obama adds 5 trillion,

2 trillion less than mccain

whoopie do! a nation of debt.... :(
 
The sad thing is that Americans think all that is wrong with this economy is taxes.
 
Bush has left us with a $500 billion dollar deficit.

Somebody's taxes have to be raised. Obama wants to return the top tax rates to where they were when Ronald Reagan was president, and lower taxes for those who make less than $250,000 a year. It works for me.
 
Bush has left us with a $500 billion dollar deficit.

Somebody's taxes have to be raised. Obama wants to return the top tax rates to where they were when Ronald Reagan was president, and lower taxes for those who make less than $250,000 a year. It works for me.

I do not think the numbers work.

Until American workers are making more money, hence can pay more taxes, nobody's plan is going to work.
 
They better hurry and lower those expectations, because there is little doubt that Obama will raise taxes on everyone above at least $42k per year, he already voted in favor of that.

He did? Show me the bill that was passed or that wasn't passed where he voted yay on a bill that increased taxes on people earning $42k a year.

Here is his voting records.

Barack Obama - U.S. Senator for Illinois

He has stated, specifically, very clearly, several times the following:

If you make under $200,000 a year, you will receive a tax cut
If you make between $200,000 and $250,000 a year, you will not see a change in your taxes.
If you make over $250,000 a year, your taxes will increase 3% to 39%

He has said this thousands of times. There are media recordings of it everywhere. This isn't a Bush: "No new taxes" this is very sussinctly clear. He has been clear about this since day 1. He will NOT raise taxes on the middle class.
 
mccain's proposals add $7 trillion to our national debt in 10 years, obama adds 5 trillion,

2 trillion less than mccain

whoopie do! a nation of debt.... :(

Welcome to the 20th century. This nation has been going further and further into debt since the 1930s.
 
Welcome to the 20th century. This nation has been going further and further into debt since the 1930s.

That is not true.

Bush and Reagan's borrow and spend policies are responsible for 90% of the National Debt.
 
Bush has left us with a $500 billion dollar deficit.

Somebody's taxes have to be raised. Obama wants to return the top tax rates to where they were when Ronald Reagan was president, and lower taxes for those who make less than $250,000 a year. It works for me.

Yet tax revenue has been way higher under Bush with fewer tax filers paying any Federal Tax.

Perhaps instead of raising taxes you cut or eliminate Capital Gains Taxes, lower corporate tax rates to the same as Ireland and open up free trade with our allies such as Columbia.

You do this and you'd have an economic BOOM with tax revenues out the roof.

All you have to know about how Obama thinks about economics is contained in this short video:

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The key words: "For the purposes of fairness", not what increases revenue.
 
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is he spewing that again?

he's been repeatedly shown that the revenues are higher because there are more PEOPLE in the work force. et he persists in making up stuff.

there is a deficit because for the first time in HISTORY a leader cut taxes during wartime --- a war that was unnecessary and a war of choice.

But Iraq has a surplus.... yay!!!!
 
Yet tax revenue has been way higher under Bush with fewer tax filers paying any Federal Tax.

Perhaps instead of raising taxes you cut or eliminate Capital Gains Taxes, lower corporate tax rates to the same as Ireland and open up free trade with our allies such as Columbia.

You do this and you'd have an economic BOOM with tax revenues out the roof.

All you have to know about how Obama thinks about economics is contained in this short video:

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The key words: "For the purposes of fairness" not what increases revenue.

Typical Republican....you completely ignored the elephant in the room......Reagan and Bush's 9 TRILLION DOLLAR National Debt.

How is that going to be paid?

By cutting taxes for the rich?

Nobody believes that fantasy anymore.
 
Typical Republican....you completely ignored the elephant in the room......Reagan and Bush's 9 TRILLION DOLLAR National Debt.

How is that going to be paid?

By cutting taxes for the rich?

Nobody believes that fantasy anymore.

A LOT of people believe that if you reduce taxes and borrow money for wars the economy will be great.

You haven't noticed how many people here still support this system?

How can you possibly miss that?
 
A LOT of people believe that if you reduce taxes and borrow money for wars the economy will be great.

You haven't noticed how many people here still support this system?

How can you possibly miss that?

People are finally seeing what a disaster the borrow and spend policies of Reagan and Bush are.

It is time for a change.
 
Typical Republican....you completely ignored the elephant in the room......Reagan and Bush's 9 TRILLION DOLLAR National Debt.

How is that going to be paid?

By cutting taxes for the rich?

Nobody believes that fantasy anymore.

Didn't say anything about cutting taxes for the rich.

The answer to your question is an expanding economy.

Tax increases do not expand an economy.

It's not very complicated.

However, politically, the more people who are dependent on the government, the better for Democrats. It's about power. And if you think otherwise you don't know your history.
 
Didn't say anything about cutting taxes for the rich.

The answer to your question is an expanding economy.

Tax increases do not expand an economy.

It's not very complicated.

However, politically, the more people who are dependent on the government, the better for Democrats. It's about power. And if you think otherwise you don't know your history.

You are right. It is not very complicated.

You can't borrow money and increase military spending at the same time without running up a $9 trillion dollar deficit.

Too bad you don't get that.
 
You are right. It is not very complicated.

You can't borrow money and increase military spending at the same time without running up a $9 trillion dollar deficit.

I agree with you. Now what do we do about it?

Answer: Expand the economy.

How? See above.
 

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