Plutocracy or Democracy? YOU will decide in Nov. 2016!

[Wry Catcher]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

 

[SuperDemocrat]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

Considering we have had the same people in power for the last 40 years it would appear to me that this is more of a plutcracy than a democracy. We are being governed by the same group of people.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Nice liberal paranoia thread.

How many jobs have YOU created?

 

[FA_Q2]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

You mean the efforts of the republican 0.01 percent because you have no said word one about the wealth on the other side.

Massively hypocritical.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Money is all you need to get elected. Just ask multi-term Illinois governor and US Senator, Jim Oberweis. LOL!

 

[Manonthestreet]

hilly is selling America to its enemies and he's telling people look over there not at this

 

[Wry Catcher]

Nice liberal paranoia thread.

How many jobs have YOU created?

Your willful ignorance is noted.

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

Considering we have had the same people in power for the last 40 years it would appear to me that this is more of a plutcracy than a democracy. We are being governed by the same group of people.

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

We, the 99% of Americans, are facing a new enemy, a domestic one intent on getting and keeping power for generations. The machinations of the Koch Brothers are threatening a system of government by the people which worked - not always well - for over two centuries.

My hope with this thread is to get people thinking, and considering other outcomes than the one they hear from demagogues and charlatans, and the willfully ignorant who parrot the propaganda of those who seek power.

 

[Derideo_Te]

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

If We the People lose to the Koch bros in 2016 this nation will suffer greatly. Libertarianism is the mirror image of Communism. Only it will be even more harmful since it will inherit the military might of the most powerful nation on earth.

Libertarianism will cause the deaths of an estimated 15% of the population because of a lack of medical and welfare programs. That would be 45 million people in the USA alone. Who knows how many more will die because of unnecessary warmongering.

Yes, the biggest threat to this nation is the enemy within and as we were warned it will come wrapped in the flag of patriotism spouting jingoism.

 

[there4eyeM]

Is someone suggesting there are a lot of suckers for Koch?

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Are you serious? The Koch Brothers represent a -new- movement of money in politics? The .01 percent have ruled our political system since well before you reactionary Dems started complaining about the Koch's. The only difference with the Koch's is that they're pushing candidates leaning more libertarian than statist, which is the opposite of what the old guard's been buying in politics for generations, cuz the establishment fuckers that the .01 percent's -been- propping up have fucked our country up royally.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Whole lotta lies being peddled..... btw we were declARED OLIGARCHY UNDER YOUR DEAR LEADER

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

If We the People lose to the Koch bros in 2016 this nation will suffer greatly. Libertarianism is the mirror image of Communism. Only it will be even more harmful since it will inherit the military might of the most powerful nation on earth.

Libertarianism will cause the deaths of an estimated 15% of the population because of a lack of medical and welfare programs. That would be 45 million people in the USA alone. Who knows how many more will die because of unnecessary warmongering.

Yes, the biggest threat to this nation is the enemy within and as we were warned it will come wrapped in the flag of patriotism spouting jingoism.

15 percent of our population is going to -die- if we roll back entitlement programs? LMFAO! Holy shit, Chicken Little, I'm not sure I even have the energy to argue with you.

Also, if you equate libertarianism with warmongering, you clearly have very little understanding of libertarianism. You should research it before you declare it the future cause of Armageddon.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

You mean the efforts of the republican 0.01 percent because you have no said word one about the wealth on the other side.

Massively hypocritical.

Nice try, your ad hominem is noted, what is not is the evidence that the other side has engaged in such a massive effort to remake our political system into one party, one idea; in this case a plutocratic dystopia.

Consider Gates, Sores and Buffet vis a vis the Brother's Koch. Or is that too dangerous for you; might it infect you with cognitive dissonance? And don't point out the Kock's donation to PBS - it won't mitigate his efforts to remake this "Shinning City on a hill" into a Libertarian Utopia.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Nice liberal paranoia thread.

How many jobs have YOU created?

Your willful ignorance is noted.

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

Considering we have had the same people in power for the last 40 years it would appear to me that this is more of a plutcracy than a democracy. We are being governed by the same group of people.

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

We, the 99% of Americans, are facing a new enemy, a domestic one intent on getting and keeping power for generations. The machinations of the Koch Brothers are threatening a system of government by the people which worked - not always well - for over two centuries.

My hope with this thread is to get people thinking, and considering other outcomes than the one they hear from demagogues and charlatans, and the willfully ignorant who parrot the propaganda of those who seek power.

You're hope with this thread is to "get people thinking" yet you think rich dems are different than rich gopers.

You are one ignorant motherfucker

 

[HenryBHough]

The brothers Koch are gonna find George Soros reluctant to give up on his money machine we once called "America".

 

[FA_Q2]

I disagree, the meme that the Democrats and Republicans are one and the same is no longer true, if it ever was. What is true is money = power, and five members of the US Supreme Court made Money = Free Speech, changing forever the concept that we are a nation of the people, by the people or for the people.

If We the People lose to the Koch bros in 2016 this nation will suffer greatly. Libertarianism is the mirror image of Communism. Only it will be even more harmful since it will inherit the military might of the most powerful nation on earth.

Libertarianism will cause the deaths of an estimated 15% of the population because of a lack of medical and welfare programs. That would be 45 million people in the USA alone. Who knows how many more will die because of unnecessary warmongering.

Yes, the biggest threat to this nation is the enemy within and as we were warned it will come wrapped in the flag of patriotism spouting jingoism.

Absolutely because libertarianism requires purity and no such programs would have any impact within a more libertarian system.

Now, how about that communism that the democrats are demanding and totalitarianism that will necessarily appear as soon as we elect another republican….

 

[Manonthestreet]

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

You mean the efforts of the republican 0.01 percent because you have no said word one about the wealth on the other side.

Massively hypocritical.

Nice try, your ad hominem is noted, what is not is the evidence that the other side has engaged in such a massive effort to remake our political system into one party, one idea; in this case a plutocratic dystopia.

Consider Gates, Sores and Buffet vis a vis the Brother's Koch. Or is that too dangerous for you; might it infect you with cognitive dissonance? And don't point out the Kock's donation to PBS - it won't mitigate his efforts to remake this "Shinning City on a hill" into a Libertarian Utopia.

Lol. "Libertarian Utopia" has to be in my top 3 phrases that a tard can spew to show they have zero understanding of libertarianism. Thank you folks for this whole thread, I needed a good laugh this afternoon.

 

[blackhawk]

Oh no the left is yammering about their favorite boogeyman the Koch brothers again you bitch, piss, and moan about the Koch brothers money and them being the 1% while at the same time throwing your support lock, stock, and barrel behind one of the great beneficiaries of the 1% Hillary Clinton.

 

[FA_Q2]

The Koch brothers’ political machine is expanding into new states and recruiting new donors as it seeks to shape the Republican Party — and its presidential field — headed into 2016, according to interviews with multiple sources, as well as confidential donor briefing documents obtained by POLITICO.

Read more: Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO


"Top officials in the Koch brothers' political organization Monday released a staggering $889 million budget to fund the activities of the billionaires' sprawling network ahead of the 2016 presidential contest....


"The fundraising target is the latest indication that the industrialists at the center of the network, Charles and David Koch, intend to continue building an operation that could exceed the national political parties in size and scope to help advance their libertarian principles. The spending, unrivaled for an outside organization, represents more than double the nearly $400 million the Republican National Committee (RNC) raised and spent during the 2012 presidential election cycle."

Full article here: Koch brothers set 889 million budget for 2016

IMO, this effort by members of the 0.01% is nothing less than a bloodless coup, and if it succeeds it will put the last nail into the coffin of Democracy in America. No longer can it be denied that we are a Plutocracy, and that every man, woman and child will be at the mercy of this new Aristocracy, and governed by elected officials on every level of government owned by an Oligarchy of the power elite.

You mean the efforts of the republican 0.01 percent because you have no said word one about the wealth on the other side.

Massively hypocritical.

Nice try, your ad hominem is noted, what is not is the evidence that the other side has engaged in such a massive effort to remake our political system into one party, one idea; in this case a plutocratic dystopia.

Consider Gates, Sores and Buffet vis a vis the Brother's Koch. Or is that too dangerous for you; might it infect you with cognitive dissonance? And don't point out the Kock's donation to PBS - it won't mitigate his efforts to remake this "Shinning City on a hill" into a Libertarian Utopia.

Not to dangerous at all and I did not ad-homonym. I pointed out exactly why you were being dishonest. You railed against Koch and left out all the others.

I have advocated what I think needs to be done to get money out of politics. You don’t agree with my solutions and I think your ‘solutions’ result in virtually no change in our current system. Money has influenced politics for a very long time and it certainly did not begin with the citizens united ruling.