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Fifty-two percent of likely voters say the nation is in worse condition now than in September 2008, while 54 percent say Obama does not deserve reelection based solely on his job performance.
vote him out people
Ryan can't run away from it anymore than he can run away from his lie that he ran a marathon in under three hours when he actually ran it in four hours 1 minute.Bottom line: GM made the decision, before Obama became president, that they didn't want to retool a 100-year-old plant.
By Luke Johnson
Vice-presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) backpedaled Monday from a claim in his Republican National Convention speech that President Barack Obama was responsible for the closure of a General Motors plant that in fact closed during the presidency of George W. Bush.
"What they are trying to suggest is that I said Barack Obama was responsible for the plant shutdown in Janesville. That is not what I was saying, read the speech," he told NBC's "Today." "What I was saying is the president ought to be held to account for his broken promises. After the plant was shut down he said he would lead efforts to restore the plant. Its still idle."
But Ryan appeared to be blaming Obama for the closure of the plant, located in his hometown of Janesville, Wis., in his speech:
"My home state voted for President Obama," he said Wednesday. "When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory."Obama did not promise to keep the plant open. He said that with government help, the plant could remain open.
"A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant," Ryan said. "Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you...this plant will be here for another hundred years.' Thats what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didnt last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And thats how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight."
"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years," Obama said on Feb. 13, 2008 in Janesville. "The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, its where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that's the future I'll fight for as your president."
More: Paul Ryan: I Wasn't Blaming Obama For GM Plant Closure
NOTE: Ryan just can't stop lying. Obama made his speech at the GM Janesville plant in February 2008. Four months later, June 2008, GM announced that they would be closing the plant. The plant effectively shut down in December 2008 - a month before Obama was sworn in as president.
By Luke Johnson
Vice-presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) backpedaled Monday from a claim in his Republican National Convention speech that President Barack Obama was responsible for the closure of a General Motors plant that in fact closed during the presidency of George W. Bush.
"What they are trying to suggest is that I said Barack Obama was responsible for the plant shutdown in Janesville. That is not what I was saying, read the speech," he told NBC's "Today." "What I was saying is the president ought to be held to account for his broken promises. After the plant was shut down he said he would lead efforts to restore the plant. Its still idle."
But Ryan appeared to be blaming Obama for the closure of the plant, located in his hometown of Janesville, Wis., in his speech:
"My home state voted for President Obama," he said Wednesday. "When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory."
"A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant," Ryan said. "Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you...this plant will be here for another hundred years.' Thats what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didnt last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And thats how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight."
Obama did not promise to keep the plant open. He said that with government help, the plant could remain open.
"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years," Obama said on Feb. 13, 2008 in Janesville. "The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, its where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that's the future I'll fight for as your president."
More: Paul Ryan: I Wasn't Blaming Obama For GM Plant Closure
NOTE: Ryan just can't stop lying. Obama made his speech at the GM Janesville plant in February 2008. Four months later, June 2008, GM announced that they would be closing the plant. The plant effectively shut down in December 2008 - a month before Obama was sworn in as president.
That's what I couldn't understand about Ryan's speech.
If he's such a respected genius visionary, delivering an address about such a supposedly evil failed marxist despot - surely he should have have had bucketloads of facts that he could use.
Why did he have to resort to lies and half-truths?
More: Paul Ryan: I Wasn't Blaming Obama For GM Plant Closure
NOTE: Ryan just can't stop lying. Obama made his speech at the GM Janesville plant in February 2008. Four months later, June 2008, GM announced that they would be closing the plant. The plant effectively shut down in December 2008 - a month before Obama was sworn in as president.
That's what I couldn't understand about Ryan's speech.
If he's such a respected genius visionary, delivering an address about such a supposedly evil failed marxist despot - surely he should have have had bucketloads of facts that he could use.
Why did he have to resort to lies and half-truths?
Well, it's kind of a loony, far-out-in-left-field notion, but one theory is that he really isn't the genius the GOoPers make him out to be. I can remember another Veep pick who they greatly inflated, too...
Then log out. Do us all a favor.
Obama is the liar so deal with it
Actually, Ryan is the liar. So, you deal with it, skank.
You friggen whiny assed babies crack me the hell up. what is this about the 15th thread on this now
When did they decide to close the plant? June, 2008.GM got government help the plant is still closed. Case closed.
Ryan didn't accuse Obama for the plant closure. He pointed out that Obama made a campaign promise to improve things and keep the plant open (Which he did after the closure was announced) and he failed to change things despite having free reign to.
Do Presidents open and close auto plants?By Luke Johnson
Vice-presidential nominee Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) backpedaled Monday from a claim in his Republican National Convention speech that President Barack Obama was responsible for the closure of a General Motors plant that in fact closed during the presidency of George W. Bush.
"What they are trying to suggest is that I said Barack Obama was responsible for the plant shutdown in Janesville. That is not what I was saying, read the speech," he told NBC's "Today." "What I was saying is the president ought to be held to account for his broken promises. After the plant was shut down he said he would lead efforts to restore the plant. Its still idle."
But Ryan appeared to be blaming Obama for the closure of the plant, located in his hometown of Janesville, Wis., in his speech:
"My home state voted for President Obama," he said Wednesday. "When he talked about change, many people liked the sound of it, especially in Janesville, where we were about to lose a major factory."Obama did not promise to keep the plant open. He said that with government help, the plant could remain open.
"A lot of guys I went to high school with worked at that GM plant," Ryan said. "Right there at that plant, candidate Obama said: 'I believe that if our government is there to support you...this plant will be here for another hundred years.' Thats what he said in 2008. Well, as it turned out, that plant didnt last another year. It is locked up and empty to this day. And thats how it is in so many towns today, where the recovery that was promised is nowhere in sight."
"And I believe that if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years," Obama said on Feb. 13, 2008 in Janesville. "The question is not whether a clean energy economy is in our future, its where it will thrive. I want it to thrive right here in the United States of America; right here in Wisconsin; and that's the future I'll fight for as your president."
More: Paul Ryan: I Wasn't Blaming Obama For GM Plant Closure
NOTE: Ryan just can't stop lying. Obama made his speech at the GM Janesville plant in February 2008. Four months later, June 2008, GM announced that they would be closing the plant. The plant effectively shut down in December 2008 - a month before Obama was sworn in as president.
Not much of a messiah that can't bring back a plant that's only been closed a month.
Ryan didn't accuse Obama for the plant closure. He pointed out that Obama made a campaign promise to improve things and keep the plant open (Which he did after the closure was announced) and he failed to change things despite having free reign to.
Are you really that stupid? GM didn't even annouce the plant closure until about FOUR months after Obama speech - while Obama was still a U.S. Senator.
Ryan didn't accuse Obama for the plant closure. He pointed out that Obama made a campaign promise to improve things and keep the plant open (Which he did after the closure was announced) and he failed to change things despite having free reign to.
Are you really that stupid? GM didn't even annouce the plant closure until about FOUR months after Obama speech - while Obama was still a U.S. Senator.
No. Not really as stupid as you. Obama made the promise twice. Once before the announcement and once afterwards.
Tell me, what was the point of the GM bailout if it wasnt to save plants just like this one?
Damn, you are really dumb! GM didn't want to keep the old plant open! Should Obama have FORCED them to keep a 100-year-old plant open?
Damn, you are really dumb! GM didn't want to keep the old plant open! Should Obama have FORCED them to keep a 100-year-old plant open?
you mean should Obama kept his word? Yes. Should he have made a stupid promise to begin with? No. But he did. So he has to be accountable for it.
the government owned GM (Still does for all intensive purposes) there is no reason he couldnt do something to save the plant.
He failed. That's the point. His policies didn't change anything even when his policies gave him complete control over the company involved.
Talk about failed leadership.
Are you really that stupid? GM didn't even annouce the plant closure until about FOUR months after Obama speech - while Obama was still a U.S. Senator.
No. Not really as stupid as you. Obama made the promise twice. Once before the announcement and once afterwards.
Tell me, what was the point of the GM bailout if it wasnt to save plants just like this one?
Damn, you are really dumb! GM didn't want to keep the old plant open! Should Obama have FORCED them to keep a 100-year-old plant open?
WILLIE BROWN: And let me tell you about when you are identified as a liar.
If you`re identified as a person not capable of telling the truth, not
trusted, and you`re running for public office, that stench stays with you.
You can`t spend your way out of that image, period. You`re toxic and
you`ll stay toxic on that issue.
