Pas de Calais....or Normandy?

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“All warfare is based on deception.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War




1. Today, an occasion to honor D-Day....the Sixth of June, 1944.
While the events that led up to this attack are fascinating by themselves, this OP centers on the location of the invasion.

Why Normandy?

Why not Calais?



Even before consideration of the effects of the bombings, the German high command knew that if the Allies established a foothold on the Continent, on 'Fortress Europa,' the war would be lost. At this point, the Germans had very little hope of victory.




2. "Planning for the operation began in 1943. In the months leading up to the invasion, the Allies conducted a substantial military deception, codenamed Operation Bodyguard, to mislead the Germans as to the date and location of the main Allied landings. The weather on D-Day was far from ideal, but postponing would have meant a delay of at least two weeks, as the invasion planners set conditions regarding the phase of the moon, the tides, and the time of day that meant only a few days in each month were deemed suitable. Hitler placed German Field Marshal Erwin Rommel in command of German forces and of developing fortifications along the Atlantic Wall in anticipation of an Allied invasion."
Normandy landings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

3. " Germans along the coast of France were already aware of the huge buildup of American troops, ships and equipment in southern England. They knew a crossing was coming at some point – the only question was where and when.
Rommel and members of the High Command, including his superior, Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt, Commander of Army West, thought the Allies would probably land at Calais, the narrowest distance between southern England and the coast of France." The History Place - Defeat of Hitler: D-Day Invasion






4. Fieldmarshall von Rundstedt explains why he believes the Allied attack will aim at Calais, rather than 200 miles north, at Normandy:

a. "Calais is the strategic linchpin of the Channel coast. If the enemy secures a beachhead at Calais, he can turn to the east and be a few days' march from the Ruhrgebiet, our industrial heartland.

b. Another reason why Calais makes sense militarily- the Channel is the narrowest there. The enemy will be able to pour men and materiel into Calais four time faster that he would at Normandy or Brittany.

c. There are three excellent deep water ports in the Pas de Calais area: Boulogne, Calais, and Dunkirk. The enemy needs ports. It is my belief that the first goal of the invaders will be to seize a major port and reopen it as quickly as possible, for without a major port the enemy cannot supply his troops.

d. Normandy presents the enemy with many problems. The distance across the Channel is much greater. At some points, high cliffs stand between the beaches and the mainland. The closest harbor is Cherbourg, at the tip of a heavily defended peninsula. Even if he takes Cherbourg, he knows we would render it useless before surrendering it.

e. But the most logical argument against a strike at Normandy, is its geographic location. It is too far to the west. Even if the enemy succeeds in landing at Normandy, he runs the risk of being pinned down and strategically isolated. He must fight us all the way across France before even reaching German soil."
From the novel "The Unlikely Spy," by Daniel Silva.
 
One of the biggest things the Germans underestimated was how much material the Allies were able to unload across the beaches.
 
It's been awhile, but Normandy was ideal for a site to use artificial harbors, and also as a good location from which to cut off the peninsula the port of Cherbourg was on, which would have given them the port without a frontal assault. Also it was the place least expected to be the invasion point.
 
One of the biggest things the Germans underestimated was how much material the Allies were able to unload across the beaches.

Yes. They also over-estimated their own abilities to resist invasions, and the quality and will of American and UK troops. They made the same errors re Anzio and the invasion of Italy.
 
It's been awhile, but Normandy was ideal for a site to use artificial harbors, and also as a good location from which to cut off the peninsula the port of Cherbourg was on, which would have given them the port without a frontal assault. Also it was the place least expected to be the invasion point.



The story of the artificial harbors that they built, how they hid them and made the Germans believe that they were anti-aircraft emplacements is fascinating.

Few know about that.
 
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most of us are familiar with this historical photo but little is known about the young Paratrooper with the blackened face, he's been identified. his name is Wally Strobel. the article is archived back to 99 so some of you may already know. what is Ike telling him?? a pep speech. well


On D-Day minus 1, the subject was fishing

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Thanks to PC for this thread.

My uncle piloted a glider in the darkness of this morning seventy years ago into Normandy. He survived, many of his comrades did not.
 
one of my favorite periods in history to read about

The same.




“All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of Warfare

Eisenhower understood Sun Tzu...




5. Intelligence reports from Admiral Canaris, chief of the Abwehr, the German military intelligence service, state that enemy air activity, both bombing and reconnaissance, is spending far more time over Calais than over Normandy or Brittany.

Preparations, including the 'Atlantikwall,' made Hitler confident that he could repel an attack at Calais. In fact, he had tried to force the Allies to attack at Calais by ordering the launching sites for his V-1 and V-2 rockets to be placed there."

a. The intelligence that the Abwehr had gathered pointed overwhelmingly to an Allied landing in the Pas de Calais.
D-Day: a summaryHistory in an Hour





b. Hitler also indicated where he thought the attack would occur.

"I have decided to reinforce the defenses in the West, particularly at places from which we shall launch our long-range war against England. For those are the very points at which the enemy must and will attack; there-unless all indications are misleading-will be fought the decisive invasion battle.

Hitler's reference to "places from which we shall launch our long-range war against England" could mean only the Pas de Calais where Germany was constructing launch ramps for the V-1 pilotless planes, precursors of the Cruise missile, which would begin raining down on London during the following summer, each with a one-ton warhead." (italics added)
The Crucial Deception - Articles & Publications - Military History Institute - Projects - Dolph Briscoe Center for American History
 
Germans should have expected someplace other than Calais after all they were the ones who taught the world that you drive around heavy static defense.
 
Good thread PC. Incredible thing D-Day. I love learning about it and all the deceptions of the allies.

For those who were there, including my father... God bless them all...
 
6. Another factor, rarely mentioned in discussions aimed at understanding the choice of Normandy rather than Calais, is that it was several hundred miles further from the first-considered point of invasion, the Italy-Adriatic area.


The deciding factor for the Western attack vs the Southern attack was the influence that Joseph Stalin had over Franklin Roosevelt.


Stalin wanted Eastern and Central Europe left for occupation by the Red Army. Stalin's spy, Harry Hopkins, Roosevelt's live-in adviser, convinced FDR to bow to Stalin's wishes.



7. Harry Hopkins and George Marshall were fully behind handing all of Eastern Europe over to Stalin's tender mercies.
They knew of the Terror Famine, the Katyn Forest Massacre, and other blood purges. by Stalin. Evidence of their intentions can be seen in a document which Hopkins took with him to the Quebec conference in August, 1943, entitled "Russia's Position," quoted as follows in Sherwood's book:
"Russia's post-war position in Europe will be a dominant one. With Germany crushed, there is no power in Europe to oppose her tremendous military forces."
In it one can see the reason that Stalin/Hopkins would not allow Germany to surrender, but had to be ground to dust.



a. Here are Eisenhower's words, in November, 1943, stating where the invasion should be:

"Italy was the correct place in which to deploy our main forces and the objective should be the Valle of the PO. In no other area could we so well threaten the whole German structure including France, the Balkans and the Reich itself. Here also our air would be closer to vital objectives in Germany."
FRUS: The conferences at Cairo and Tehran, 1943, p.359-361
That report was published in "Foreign Relations of the United States" in 1961

Eisenhower's statement was to an audience in November 26, 1943....


One can only conjecture as to the hold that Stalin had on Franklin Roosevelt, as his every wish was obliged.
One wonders......
 
8. Deception was the key to victory.

" If the Germans could learn when and where the landings would occur, they could concentrate their reserves from other parts of France and western Europe and push the invading force back into the sea before it could be enlarged and consolidated to defend itself.

Erwin Rommel, the legendary German general who commanded coastal defenses from Holland to the Loire told his staff:
"The major moments of weakness will occur during the actual landings and shortly afterwards." Against men wading through the surf after a sea voyage, German forces massed near the invasion area could be overwhelming. They would know the terrain and could get to the invasion beaches by walking or riding bicycles, if necessary; both were common modes of transportation in the German army.
The Crucial Deception - Articles & Publications - Military History Institute - Projects - Dolph Briscoe Center for American History




9. A fascinating true tale of the deception used by the Allies, is book "The Man Who Never Was: WWII's Boldest Counterintelligence Operation," by Lt. Cmdr. Ewen Montagu, about Operation Mincemeat, in which the British attempted to mislead the Germans about the intended invasion spot for D-Day by planting a corpse with fake papers on a beach in Spain, knowing that the Spanish would pass the papers onto the Germans. .... the formation of the plan, and then creating the man who never was, creating his papers and personal effects."
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10. Earlier in the thread it was stated that the attack came at Normandy rather than via Italy, or Calais, because that was the wish of Stalin, rather than of Eisenhower.



Note the following testimony by converted Soviet spy, Elizabeth Bentley, who testified as to Stalin's plans for Germany:



6. Elizabeth Bentley, a former operative of the Soviet underground testified before the Senate subcommittee on August 14, 1951, naming some 80 Soviet spies. Her testimony was summarized in an FBI report, dated November 25, 1945.
Glimpse the methods and purpose of the Soviet operation:

Miss Bentley testified as follows about the Morgenthau plan for Germany:
Senator Eastland: "Did you know who drew that plan?"

Miss Bentley: "Due to Mr. [Harry Dexter] White's influence, to push the devastation of Germany, because that was what the Russians wanted."

Senator Ferguson: "That was what the Communists wanted?"

Miss Bentley: "Definitely Moscow wanted them completely razed because then they would be of no help to the allies."

Senator Eastland: "What you say is that it was a Communist plot to destroy Germany and weaken her to where she could not help us?"

Miss Bentley: "That is correct. She could no longer be a barrier to protect the western world."
Manly, 'The Twenty Year Revolution,' p.102-103




“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Stalin studied Sun Tzu, too.
Think of how much of post-war history this testimony explains.
 

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