frigidweirdo
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The thing is this sort of thing has been played out several times now. Recall how Obama and most of the West claimed Russian supported rebels shot down the Malaysian plane, in Ukraine. Much like Trump's two missile attacks on Syria, Obama and West immediately blamed Russian rebels without ever providing documented proof. Obama placed sanctions on Russia, and act of war.Unfortunately, the source for the news is Sputnik and Russia, so we are in a "he said, she said" situation.
Unless we have an unbiased UN panel with both US, Russian, Chinese, scientists releasing findings etc. things are going to get dicey. I have a feeling, the US and NATO allies will not allow that to happen this time.
No information will be better for their case than true information.
So the Russians, Chinese, Syrians, Iranians etc. will be on their own, and looking like any information they release will be biased.
I have a feeling you might be right unless this civil war in the Deep State here in the US can be straightened out soon. Unless that happens, the administration appears to have to follow a policy of appeasement to the military-industrial war making intelligence apparatus.
I'm not even sure if things would change if they had complete control otherwise.
When a gas attack occurred under Obama, in Syria, to his credit he did not escalate the situation by bombing. For this he was mercilessly criticized by much of the media, due to his 'red line' comment. It is clear to me that most of the MSM has become the mouthpiece for the Deep State and the MIC.
And at the same time the Russians fabricated false "evidence" to "prove" it wasn't them.
Do you have some proof of that?
Oh, yes.
'Clear and unequivocal' that Russia faked MH17 evidence
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'Clear and unequivocal' that Russia faked MH17 evidence
Satellite images of missile launcher were tampered with to blame Ukrainians for airliner crash that killed 298, Bellingcat investigative group says"
Ukrainian pilot falsely accused by Russia of shooting down flight MH17 'kills himself'
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Russian officials and media had accused Mr Voloshyn of flying the jet which shot down the Boeing 777 passenger plane, killing all 298 people on board.
However, a two-year Dutch investigation concluded the plane had been destroyed by a Russian Buk missile."
Russia claims this satellite image shows moment flight MH17 was shot down by fighter jet
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Russia claims this satellite image shows moment flight MH17 was shot down by fighter jet"
"The photographs were broadcast tonight by Russian state media as evidence the passenger plane was shot down in July by a Ukrainian warplane and not a ground to air missile as previously believed."
Three different falsehoods the Russians used, not to prove anything, but to sow the seeds of doubt in the west. They do it all the time.
It happened with the poison attack in England too. The Russians said the poison could have come from England, not that it did, but it could have done. But then that's all that's needed for people to start conspiracy theories that will be dealt with in Russia, but not in the West.
You have no idea what Chattham House, Royal Institute of Intentional Affairs, or the Council of Foreign Affairs, or the Round Table Groups are do you?
I don't think there really is much point in us even discussing this topic.
Fine, let's not discuss this.