One Party has told you illegal Mexicans belong on the backs of American taxpayers. You support that?

[BrokeLoser]

How so?
I’m genuinely curious of what goes through the mind of someone willing to support something which seems like complete lunacy to others?
One Party is telling you to your face illegals deserve your money and one Party is atleast saying they want to protect your money from illegals.
One Party is telling you illegals deserve the right to crowd your classrooms and emergency rooms and compromise your child’s education and healthcare.
One Party is telling you illegals deserve the right to compete for your job, to drive uninsured and intoxicated.
How the FUCK does anyone sane and not here by illegal means support this Twilight Zone shit?

 

[H B Lowrie]

One Party has told you illegal Mexicans belong on the backs of American taxpayers. You support that?

No one has ever said that at all, and the presence of "illegals" here has always been utterly bipartisan, AND a direct result of the lobbying and think tank drafted legislative efforts of the Wall Street/donor/"job creatr" class.

We have always supported "illegals" being here with our shopping habits, all of US americans enjoyed the cheaper labor and prices at the checkout counter. We did not wish to pay more so fellow americans could take and live on those jobs. Any white guy patriots you know wish to be chained up in the back of a semi at night and enslaved?

Slavery in Agriculture
In one of the most recent case to be brought to court, a federal grand jury indicted six people in Immokalee on January 17th, 2008, for their part in what U.S. Attorney Doug Molloy called “slavery, plain and simple” (Ft. Myers News-Press, “Group accused of keeping, beating, stealing from Immokalee laborers,” 1/18/08). The employers were charged with beating workers who were unwilling to work or who attempted to leave their employ picking tomatoes, holding their workers in debt, and chaining and locking workers inside u-haul-style trucks as punishment (“How about a side order of human rights,” Miami Herald, 12/16/07).

This case became the seventh such farm labor operation to be prosecuted for servitude in Florida — involving well over 1,000 workers and more than a dozen employers — in the past decade. Since then, the federal government initiated two more prosecutions, bringing the total to nine as of 2012. Here below is a list of the nine cases, in chronological order:

U.S. vs. Flores — In 1997, Miguel Flores and Sebastian Gomez were sentenced to 15 years each in federal prison on slavery, extortion, and firearms charges, amongst others. Flores and Gomez had a workforce of over 400 men and women in Florida and South Carolina, harvesting vegetables and citrus. The workers, mostly indigenous Mexicans and Guatemalans, were forced to work 10-12 hour days, 6 days per week, for as little as $20 per week, under the watch of armed guards. Those who attempted escape were assaulted, pistol-whipped, and even shot. The case was brought to federal authorities after five years of investigation by escaped workers and CIW members.

U.S. vs. Cuello — In 1999, Abel Cuello was sentenced to 33 months in federal prison on slavery charges. He had held more than 30 tomato pickers in two trailers in the isolated swampland west of Immokalee, keeping them under constant watch. Three workers escaped the camp, only to have their boss track them down a few weeks later. The employer ran one of them down with his car, stating that he owned them. The workers sought help from the CIW and the police, and the CIW worked with the DOJ on the ensuing investigation. Cuello worked for Manley Farms North Inc., a major Bonita Springs tomato supplier. Once out of prison, Cuello supplied labor to Ag-Mart Farms, a tomato company operating in Florida and North Carolina.

U.S. vs. Tecum — In 2001, Jose Tecum was sentenced to 9 years in federal prison on slavery and kidnapping charges. He forced a young woman to work against her will both in the tomato fields around Immokalee, and in his home. The CIW assisted the DOJ with the prosecution, including victim and witness assistance.

U.S. vs. Lee — In 2001, Michael Lee was sentenced to 4 years in federal prison and 3 years supervised release on a slavery conspiracy charge. He pled guilty to using crack cocaine, threats, and violence to enslave his workers. Lee held his workers in forced labor, recruiting homeless U.S. citizens for his operation, creating a “company store” debt through loans for rent, food, cigarettes, and cocaine. He abducted and beat one of his workers to prevent him from leaving his employ. Lee harvested for orange growers in the Fort Pierce, FL area.

U.S. vs. Ramos — In 2004, Ramiro and Juan Ramos were sentenced to 15 years each in federal prison on slavery and firearms charges, and the forfeiture of over $3 million in assets. The men, who had a workforce of over 700 farmworkers in the citrus groves of Florida, as well as the fields of North Carolina, threatened workers with death if they were to try to leave, and pistol-whipped and assaulted — at gunpoint — passenger van service drivers who gave rides to farmworkers leaving the area. The case was brought to trial by the DOJ after two years of investigation by the CIW. The Ramoses harvested for Consolidated Citrus and Lykes Brothers, among others.

U.S. vs. Ronald Evans — In 2007, Florida employer Ron Evans was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison on drug conspiracy, financial re-structuring, and witness tampering charges, among others. Jequita Evans was also sentenced to 20 years, and Ron Evans Jr. to 10 years. Operating in Florida and North Carolina, Ron Evans recruited homeless U.S. citizens from shelters across the Southeast, including New Orleans, Tampa, and Miami, with promises of good jobs and housing. At Palatka, FL and Newton Grove, NC area labor camps, the Evans’ deducted rent, food, crack cocaine and alcohol from workers’ pay, holding them “perpetually indebted” in what the DOJ called “a form of servitude morally and legally reprehensible.” The Palatka labor camp was surrounded by a chain link fence topped with barbed wire, with a No Trespassing sign. The CIW and a Miami-based homeless outreach organization (Touching Miami with Love) began the investigation and reported the case to federal authorities in 2003. In Florida, Ron Evans worked for grower Frank Johns. Johns was 2004 Chairman of the Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association, the powerful lobbying arm of the Florida agricultural industry. As of 2007, he remained the Chairman of the FFVA’s Budget and Finance Committee.

U.S. vs. Navarrete — In December 2008, employers Cesar and Geovanni Navarrete were sentenced to 12 years each in federal prison on charges of conspiracy, holding workers in involuntary servitude, and peonage. They had employed dozens of tomato pickers in Florida and South Carolina. As stated in the DOJ press release on their sentencing, “[the employers] pleaed guilty to beating, threatening, restraining, and locking workers in trucks to force them to work as agricultural laborers… [They] were accused of paying the workers minimal wages and driving the workers into debt, while simultaneously threatening physical harm if the workers left their employment before their debts had been repaid to the Navarrete family.” Workers first reported the abuse to Collier County police, and additional workers sought help from the CIW. The CIW collaborated with the DOJ and the police on the year-long investigation and prosecution.

U.S. vs. Bontemps — In July 2010, Cabioch Bontemps, Carline Ceneus, and Willy Edouard were indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiracy to commit forced labor. DOJ officials accuse the three of holding over 50 guestworkers from Haiti against their will in the beanfields of Alachua County, Florida. The indictment states that Bontemps raped one of the workers in his employ and threatened her if she were to report it. The employers held the workers’ passports and visas, and forced them to work in fields recently sprayed with harsh pesticides, causing permanent scarring. The grower, Steven Davis, asked the judge during the court hearing to release Bontemps since he was key to the harvesting operation. “All these people [the workers] look up to him,” Davis said. “All these people respect him. All these people worship him.” The CIW trained local law enforcement and church groups shortly before the workers were rescued, and assisted in referring the case to the DOJ. The DOJ dropped the charges in January 2012.

U.S. vs. Global Horizons — In September 2010, staff of guestworker recruiting giant Global Horizons were charged with operating a forced labor ring active in 13 states, including Florida. Global Horizons CEO Mordechai Orian and six others were accused of holding six hundred guestworkers from Thailand against their will in what prosecutors called “the largest human trafficking case in US history.” FBI Special Agent Tom Simon described the case as “a classic bait-and-switch… They were telling the Thai workers one thing to lure them here. Then when they got here, their passports were taken away and they were held in forced servitude working in these farms.” Of the eight people originally indicted, three pled guilty; a Global Horizons manager pled guilty to conspiracy to violate the forced labor statute, and two field supervisors pled guilty to document servitude. A fourth defendant pled guilty in Thailand to recruitment fraud. In July 2012, the DOJ dropped the charges against CEO Orian and another Global Horizons executive.
Anti-Slavery Program – Coalition of Immokalee Workers



Capitalism as practiced in the US never saw fit to wean itself off of a cheap source of labor it could exploit extra-legally once outright slavery was "outlawed". How does one resist that societal economic pressure in america if you are of the working class?


Demonize the poor with no power. They must have done it to you. Never question power and wealth.

 

[Pilot1]

The Democrats have clearly stated, and their actions prove it, that they value ILLEGAL Aliens over American CITIZENS. They are trying to continue illegally importing a huge voting block for themselves. Most of whom are going to drain U.S. taxpayer resources.

This is beginning to be a big LOSER for the Democrats, and it they don't realize that it will bite them in the *ss.

 

[BrokeLoser]

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Haha...is that your cry for help?
You mad at me for exposing the truth? Wetbacks are at the root of all this nations evil. Wetbacks have our government shut down… Wake the fuck up Raggy.

 

[H B Lowrie]

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Oh that's fine in america. It's who we are as a society, let it shine.

 

[H B Lowrie]

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Haha...is that your cry for help?
You mad at me for exposing the truth? Wetbacks are at the root of all this nations evil. Wetbacks have our government shut down… Wake the fuck up Raggy.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

 

[BrokeLoser]

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Haha...is that your cry for help?
You mad at me for exposing the truth? Wetbacks are at the root of all this nations evil. Wetbacks have our government shut down… Wake the fuck up Raggy.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

LefTard Logic:
“I used to lose $10,000 per month due to my gambling problem...now I ONLY lose $5,000 per month so that means I no longer have a problem.”

 

[H B Lowrie]

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Haha...is that your cry for help?
You mad at me for exposing the truth? Wetbacks are at the root of all this nations evil. Wetbacks have our government shut down… Wake the fuck up Raggy.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

LefTard Logic:
“I used to lose $10,000 per month due to my gambling problem...now I ONLY lose $5,000 per month so that means I no longer have a problem.”

OR you could read. Your choice, don't mind either way, I expect americans to choose stupidity and belief over thought.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low

 

[litman]

First our righties need to learn the difference between illegals which mostly come into this country by air and refugees that are following American and international law. It is the idiot in chief who is breaking he law. Instead of a fence how about more judges down so we can process the refugees much faster. I might point out that very few receive amnesty. But this plain boldface lie that righties always love to spout that they are all illegals show how little they know about our laws and international law. Quit being so damn stupid. The other great lie is that we want them to come here to be voters for democrats. This is the biggest bullshit of all. Do you really think that all Latino are just going to vote republican. Remember that Bush received 40% of the Latino vote. If you on the right would just shut the hatred coming out your mouths against Latino all the time you would have a larger following. But as long as all you do is spout hatred for Latinos then if and when they ever become citizens they may well vote against you. I also might just mention that in just a few more years the other races will outnumber the whites in this country. Think about that before you continue to spout hatred for good hard working people. I also might point out how the Donald keeps lying about the drugs coming across the border. Sorry idiots but that is a flat out lie. The vast majority come in through our ports. A wall will do nothing to stop the flow of drugs. As long as there is a market for the drugs they will get here one way or another. As I have said in the past if you have some extra money if we do build the wall then I suggest you invest in any company that makes ladders or tunneling equipment.

 

[Meister]

First our righties need to learn the difference between illegals which mostly come into this country by air and refugees that are following American and international law. It is the idiot in chief who is breaking he law. Instead of a fence how about more judges down so we can process the refugees much faster. I might point out that very few receive amnesty. But this plain boldface lie that righties always love to spout that they are all illegals show how little they know about our laws and international law. Quit being so damn stupid. The other great lie is that we want them to come here to be voters for democrats. This is the biggest bullshit of all. Do you really think that all Latino are just going to vote republican. Remember that Bush received 40% of the Latino vote. If you on the right would just shut the hatred coming out your mouths against Latino all the time you would have a larger following. But as long as all you do is spout hatred for Latinos then if and when they ever become citizens they may well vote against you. I also might just mention that in just a few more years the other races will outnumber the whites in this country. Think about that before you continue to spout hatred for good hard working people. I also might point out how the Donald keeps lying about the drugs coming across the border. Sorry idiots but that is a flat out lie. The vast majority come in through our ports. A wall will do nothing to stop the flow of drugs. As long as there is a market for the drugs they will get here one way or another. As I have said in the past if you have some extra money if we do build the wall then I suggest you invest in any company that makes ladders or tunneling equipment.

You act like the conservatives are against legal immigration...if you were honest, you would know that is just a liberal lie.
Problem we have now is getting these illegal immigrants to the courts after we're forced to let them in our country waiting for their day in court. true story

 

[LeftofLeft]

One Party has told you illegal Mexicans belong on the backs of American taxpayers. You support that?

No one has ever said that at all, and the presence of "illegals" here has always been utterly bipartisan, AND a direct result of the lobbying and think tank drafted legislative efforts of the Wall Street/donor/"job creatr" class.

We have always supported "illegals" being here with our shopping habits, all of US americans enjoyed the cheaper labor and prices at the checkout counter. We did not wish to pay more so fellow americans could take and live on those jobs. Any white guy patriots you know wish to be chained up in the back of a semi at night and enslaved?

Slavery in Agriculture
In one of the most recent case to be brought to court, a federal grand jury indicted six people in Immokalee on January 17th, 2008, for their part in what U.S. Attorney Doug Molloy called “slavery, plain and simple” (Ft. Myers News-Press, “Group accused of keeping, beating, stealing from Immokalee laborers,” 1/18/08). The employers were charged with beating workers who were unwilling to work or who attempted to leave their employ picking tomatoes, holding their workers in debt, and chaining and locking workers inside u-haul-style trucks as punishment (“How about a side order of human rights,” Miami Herald, 12/16/07).

This case became the seventh such farm labor operation to be prosecuted for servitude in Florida — involving well over 1,000 workers and more than a dozen employers — in the past decade. Since then, the federal government initiated two more prosecutions, bringing the total to nine as of 2012. Here below is a list of the nine cases, in chronological order:

U.S. vs. Flores — In 1997, Miguel Flores and Sebastian Gomez were sentenced to 15 years each in federal prison on slavery, extortion, and firearms charges, amongst others. Flores and Gomez had a workforce of over 400 men and women in Florida and South Carolina, harvesting vegetables and citrus. The workers, mostly indigenous Mexicans and Guatemalans, were forced to work 10-12 hour days, 6 days per week, for as little as $20 per week, under the watch of armed guards. Those who attempted escape were assaulted, pistol-whipped, and even shot. The case was brought to federal authorities after five years of investigation by escaped workers and CIW members.

U.S. vs. Cuello — In 1999, Abel Cuello was sentenced to 33 months in federal prison on slavery charges. He had held more than 30 tomato pickers in two trailers in the isolated swampland west of Immokalee, keeping them under constant watch. Three workers escaped the camp, only to have their boss track them down a few weeks later. The employer ran one of them down with his car, stating that he owned them. The workers sought help from the CIW and the police, and the CIW worked with the DOJ on the ensuing investigation. Cuello worked for Manley Farms North Inc., a major Bonita Springs tomato supplier. Once out of prison, Cuello supplied labor to Ag-Mart Farms, a tomato company operating in Florida and North Carolina.

U.S. vs. Tecum — In 2001, Jose Tecum was sentenced to 9 years in federal prison on slavery and kidnapping charges. He forced a young woman to work against her will both in the tomato fields around Immokalee, and in his home. The CIW assisted the DOJ with the prosecution, including victim and witness assistance.

U.S. vs. Lee — In 2001, Michael Lee was sentenced to 4 years in federal prison and 3 years supervised release on a slavery conspiracy charge. He pled guilty to using crack cocaine, threats, and violence to enslave his workers. Lee held his workers in forced labor, recruiting homeless U.S. citizens for his operation, creating a “company store” debt through loans for rent, food, cigarettes, and cocaine. He abducted and beat one of his workers to prevent him from leaving his employ. Lee harvested for orange growers in the Fort Pierce, FL area.

U.S. vs. Ramos — In 2004, Ramiro and Juan Ramos were sentenced to 15 years each in federal prison on slavery and firearms charges, and the forfeiture of over $3 million in assets. The men, who had a workforce of over 700 farmworkers in the citrus groves of Florida, as well as the fields of North Carolina, threatened workers with death if they were to try to leave, and pistol-whipped and assaulted — at gunpoint — passenger van service drivers who gave rides to farmworkers leaving the area. The case was brought to trial by the DOJ after two years of investigation by the CIW. The Ramoses harvested for Consolidated Citrus and Lykes Brothers, among others.

U.S. vs. Ronald Evans — In 2007, Florida employer Ron Evans was sentenced to 30 years in federal prison on drug conspiracy, financial re-structuring, and witness tampering charges, among others. Jequita Evans was also sentenced to 20 years, and Ron Evans Jr. to 10 years. Operating in Florida and North Carolina, Ron Evans recruited homeless U.S. citizens from shelters across the Southeast, including New Orleans, Tampa, and Miami, with promises of good jobs and housing. At Palatka, FL and Newton Grove, NC area labor camps, the Evans’ deducted rent, food, crack cocaine and alcohol from workers’ pay, holding them “perpetually indebted” in what the DOJ called “a form of servitude morally and legally reprehensible.” The Palatka labor camp was surrounded by a chain link fence topped with barbed wire, with a No Trespassing sign. The CIW and a Miami-based homeless outreach organization (Touching Miami with Love) began the investigation and reported the case to federal authorities in 2003. In Florida, Ron Evans worked for grower Frank Johns. Johns was 2004 Chairman of the Florida Fruit and Vegetable Association, the powerful lobbying arm of the Florida agricultural industry. As of 2007, he remained the Chairman of the FFVA’s Budget and Finance Committee.

U.S. vs. Navarrete — In December 2008, employers Cesar and Geovanni Navarrete were sentenced to 12 years each in federal prison on charges of conspiracy, holding workers in involuntary servitude, and peonage. They had employed dozens of tomato pickers in Florida and South Carolina. As stated in the DOJ press release on their sentencing, “[the employers] pleaed guilty to beating, threatening, restraining, and locking workers in trucks to force them to work as agricultural laborers… [They] were accused of paying the workers minimal wages and driving the workers into debt, while simultaneously threatening physical harm if the workers left their employment before their debts had been repaid to the Navarrete family.” Workers first reported the abuse to Collier County police, and additional workers sought help from the CIW. The CIW collaborated with the DOJ and the police on the year-long investigation and prosecution.

U.S. vs. Bontemps — In July 2010, Cabioch Bontemps, Carline Ceneus, and Willy Edouard were indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of conspiracy to commit forced labor. DOJ officials accuse the three of holding over 50 guestworkers from Haiti against their will in the beanfields of Alachua County, Florida. The indictment states that Bontemps raped one of the workers in his employ and threatened her if she were to report it. The employers held the workers’ passports and visas, and forced them to work in fields recently sprayed with harsh pesticides, causing permanent scarring. The grower, Steven Davis, asked the judge during the court hearing to release Bontemps since he was key to the harvesting operation. “All these people [the workers] look up to him,” Davis said. “All these people respect him. All these people worship him.” The CIW trained local law enforcement and church groups shortly before the workers were rescued, and assisted in referring the case to the DOJ. The DOJ dropped the charges in January 2012.

U.S. vs. Global Horizons — In September 2010, staff of guestworker recruiting giant Global Horizons were charged with operating a forced labor ring active in 13 states, including Florida. Global Horizons CEO Mordechai Orian and six others were accused of holding six hundred guestworkers from Thailand against their will in what prosecutors called “the largest human trafficking case in US history.” FBI Special Agent Tom Simon described the case as “a classic bait-and-switch… They were telling the Thai workers one thing to lure them here. Then when they got here, their passports were taken away and they were held in forced servitude working in these farms.” Of the eight people originally indicted, three pled guilty; a Global Horizons manager pled guilty to conspiracy to violate the forced labor statute, and two field supervisors pled guilty to document servitude. A fourth defendant pled guilty in Thailand to recruitment fraud. In July 2012, the DOJ dropped the charges against CEO Orian and another Global Horizons executive.
Anti-Slavery Program – Coalition of Immokalee Workers



Capitalism as practiced in the US never saw fit to wean itself off of a cheap source of labor it could exploit extra-legally once outright slavery was "outlawed". How does one resist that societal economic pressure in america if you are of the working class?


Demonize the poor with no power. They must have done it to you. Never question power and wealth.

Most of these posts site slavery charges; non-whites and non-US origins engaging in slavery of brown people. Interesting.... White America is constantly reminded and admonished for its racist past rooted in slavery.... how many whites vs. non whites engage in slavery TODAY???

 

[depotoo]

Dec. 2017 article. Lol

In 2018, over half a million were apprehended in the southwest sector. Up over 100,000 from 2017.
And cbp claims they only apprehend close to 35%. Last night I watched border patrol live trying to catch four males that had crossed illegally.

That means we’ll over a half a million are not caught crossing.

Fiscal year 2019 started in Oct, and just in Oct & Nov, over 100,000 were apprehended. No numbers yet for Dec or this month.

This guys needs to be banned or his posts erased....all he does is spit his racism against Mexicans day in a day out.
Are there any moderators around ?

Haha...is that your cry for help?
You mad at me for exposing the truth? Wetbacks are at the root of all this nations evil. Wetbacks have our government shut down… Wake the fuck up Raggy.

Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low
December 5, 201711:10 AM ET
Arrests For Illegal Border Crossings Hit 46-Year Low