OMG! Obama leading from behind -----> and winning!

[Roudy]

Agreed, give them one week notice, level what needs to be leveled, and then do a house to house to clear the area. Whoever stays behind has it coming. There is no other way.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

 

[Oldstyle]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

Which website do you post the truth on ?

This one. All the time. That's why they attack me and not the facts.

Why do they attack me! Why!!! I do nothing but attack them...but why do they attack me!!! Why? Why?

It's bad enough that you're an idiot, R-Derp...try not to be a WHINY idiot!

 

[dilloduck]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

It is the Obama derangement syndrome. They will disparage the American military for a job well done rather than allow even a small amount of credit go to Obama.

Where did Obama get all his military training ? Chicago ?

 

[BlueGin]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

^^The lib mind set In a nutshell

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu is the funniest thing ever posted at USMB.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Sun Tzu's Secret Book of Choom

Undermine the gains mad by your predecessor
Bind your own troops with restrictive Rules of Engagement
Switch sides to support the Islamist
Lie about a terrorist attack, blaming it on a video

You mean THAT Sun Tzu book?

 

[Camp]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

 

[Oldstyle]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

It is the Obama derangement syndrome. They will disparage the American military for a job well done rather than allow even a small amount of credit go to Obama.

Where did Obama get all his military training ? Chicago ?

He used to play a little World of Warcraft...right after he smoked a fatty!

 

[dilloduck]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

Since Obama SELDOM follows the advice of his Joint Chiefs of Staff that's rather amusing, Camp.

Barack Obama...master of military strategy! That's even more amusing...

 

[Camp]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

 

[dilloduck]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

Hell he doesn't even attend briefings.

 

[Oldstyle]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

Obama was told by his military leaders that withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq prematurely would leave a dangerous vacuum of power. He didn't have the "wisdom" to listen to them.

 

[dilloduck]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

Obama was told by his military leaders that withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq prematurely would leave a dangerous vacuum of power. He didn't have the "wisdom" to listen to them.

Camp is desperately trying to prop up the messiah.

 

[Camp]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

Obama was told by his military leaders that withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq prematurely would leave a dangerous vacuum of power. He didn't have the "wisdom" to listen to them.

Bush was told the same thing but signed the commitment to leave Iraq a month before he left office. He stuck Obama and the rest of the country with his stupid agreement just so he could say he ended the war during his term in office.

 

[Camp]

Barack Obama is a student of Sun Tzu? Really Mamooth?

It is very obvious that the Joint Chiefs of Staff that are advising the President are well aware of Sun Tzu and Obama is following the advice of his JCS.

So you admit he doesn't know shit about it. Thank you.

Not at all. He has the wisdom to have enough knowledge that he can make a fact-based decision when presented with various options. Unlike Bush who was told repeatedly that occupying Iraq after it fell would take hundreds of thousands of troops and ignored that good advice from military leaders, but instead listened to his civilian neo-con armchair generals.

Obama was told by his military leaders that withdrawing US combat troops from Iraq prematurely would leave a dangerous vacuum of power. He didn't have the "wisdom" to listen to them.

Camp is desperately trying to prop up the messiah.

Wrong. I just prefer Presidents that keeps American casualties to a minimum.

 

[rdean]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

Which website do you post the truth on ?

If I didn't post the truth, right wingers would come up with links proving I was wrong. And they would do it real quick. You know that to be true.

 

[dilloduck]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

Which website do you post the truth on ?

If I didn't post the truth, right wingers would come up with links proving I was wrong. And they would do it real quick. You know that to be true.

Not anymore---it's sorta like Fakey Jakey. I just look at the name, consider the source and move on.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

We came, we saw, we killed Gaddafi, destabilizing Libya and reinvigorated ISIS -- HRC