ScreamingEagle
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Gem said:Screaming, you're right. I should not have generalized. But, in my defense, I have stated numerous times in numerous threads that the people who wish to rationally express their opinions are often drowned out by the people who are unable to listen to opposing viewpoints without resulting to nastiness. You know that you are not one of these people, therefore you know that I obviously place you in the category of person who could address issues rationally but are often lost in the din of others.
I have never criticized people for disapproving of homosexuality or gay marriage for any reason. I have only criticized people here for resorting to insults too soon and stopping the possibility of rational discussion.
I apologize again for generalizing...but I think that my previous posts demonstrate clearly what my issue is...and that I was not referring to anyone and everyone who is against homosexual marriage.
Hey thanks Gem, you're allright. I see where your coming from. I guess perhaps we all can sometimes resort to personal insult because of frustration and the discussion then loses its way. Yet I still think most here believe in condemning the sin, not the sinner, despite many perceived personal attacks...and some real ones as well. I guess it's sometimes difficult to separate the two.
Getting back to the topic, one can lust after another man's wife or lust after another man. Such desires are not really a person's fault per se, but acting upon them is. Most religious teachings are against adultery and homosexual behavior for good reasons. They have negative results in society and others are hurt. Most gays don't believe their actions have a negative result on others and society and it's hard to convince them otherwise since there is typically no immediate result one can quickly point to as with adultery.
My questions to Matts were attempting to address the logical and negative societal results of his postition, but it seems he's avoiding them.
I don't believe in the Libertarian approach that says everybody should have the freedom to do anything they want to do. I believe there should be limits upon negative behaviors because they can ultimately destroy a society. It is societal suicide to allow them.