Obama's Iran-Contra

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    1. "JERUSALEM – The U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, actually served as a meeting place to coordinate aid for the rebel-led insurgencies in the Middle East, according to Middle Eastern security officials. [The purpose] the building was collaborating with Arab countries on the recruitment of fighters – including jihadists – to target Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.




    2. A consulate typically refers to the building that officially houses a consul, who is the official representatives of the government of one state in the territory of another. The U.S. consul in Libya, Jenny Cordell, works out of the embassy in Tripoli. A diplomatic mission is simply a group of people from one state or an international inter-governmental organization present in another state...

    a. Since the mission was attacked last month, countless news media reports around the world have referred to the obscure post as a U.S. consulate. That theme continues to permeate the media, with articles daily referencing a “consulate” in Benghazi.The State Department website lists no consulate in Benghazi.

    3. The distinction may help explain why there was no major public security presence at what has been described as a “consulate.” Such a presence would draw attention to the shabby, nondescript building that was allegedly used for such sensitive purposes.

    a. President Obama has referred to the Benghazi post as a “U.S. mission.” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has similarly called the post a “mission.” U.S. officials have been more careful in their rhetoric while not contradicting the media narrative that a consulate was attacked.

    4. ...the so-called consulate was more of a diplomatic meeting place for U.S. officials, including Stevens....the building was routinely used by Stevens and others to coordinate with the Turkish, Saudi and Qatari governments on supporting the insurgencies in the Middle East, most prominently the rebels opposing Assad’s regime in Syria.

    5. ...Stevens played a central role in recruiting jihadists to fight Assad’s regime in Syria, according to Egyptian security officials....to coordinate the recruitment by Saudi Arabia of Islamic fighters from North Africa and Libya. The jihadists were sent to Syria via Turkey to attack Assad’s forces,...




    6. One witness to the mob scene in Libya said some of the gunmen attacking the U.S. installation had identified themselves as members of Ansar al-Shariah, which represents al-Qaida in Yemen and Libya. The al-Qaida offshoot released a statement denying its members were behind the deadly attack, but a man identified as a leader of the Ansar brigade told Al Jazeera the group indeed took part in the Benghazi attack.




    7. ...questions remain about the nature of U.S. support for the revolutions in Egypt and Libya, including reports the U.S.-aided rebels that toppled Muammar Gadhafi’s regime in Libya consisted of al-Qaida and jihad groups. The U.S. provided direct assistance, including weapons and finances, to the Libyan rebels.

    a. ...the Obama administration is currently aiding the rebels fighting Assad’s regime in Syria amid widespread reports that al-Qaida jihadists are included in the ranks of the Free Syrian Army. Earlier this month, Obama announced $50 million more in aid to the Syrian rebels.

    b. ... rebel leader Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi admitted in an interview that a significant number of the Libyan rebels were al-Qaida fighters, many of whom had fought U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    8. Adm. James Stavridis, NATO supreme commander for Europe, admitted Libya’s rebel force may include al-Qaida: “We have seen flickers in the intelligence of potential al-Qaida, Hezbollah.”

    9. ...widespread reports of al-Qaida among the Syrian rebels, including in reports by Reuters and the New York Times.... Egypt has reports of collaboration between the Syrian opposition and three al-Qaida arms, including one that operates in Libya:

    Jund al-Sham, which is made up of al-Qaida militants who are Syrian, Palestinian and Lebanese;

    Jund al-Islam, which in recent years merged with Ansar al-Islam, an extremist group of Sunni Iraqis operating under the al-Qaida banner and operating in Yemen and Libya;

    Jund Ansar al-Allah, an al-Qaida group based in Gaza linked to Palestinian camps in Lebanon and Syria.




    10. U.S. officials have stated the White House is providing nonlethal aid to the Syrian rebels while widespread reports have claimed the U.S. has been working with Arab countries to ensure the opposition in Syria is well armed."
    This is what Benghazi


    Why are we arming jihadi radicals????
    What is America's policy...and why??

    ...Reagan's 'Iran-Contra' was aimed against communism....
    Obama's 'Iran-Contra' designed to support Islamofascist jihadists.


    Is this why American forces could not be sent to Steven's mission, where evidence might be revealed about the Obama attempts to radicalize the Middle East?



    Egypt...Libya...Syria...exactly what is the Obama Middle East foreign policy?
     
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    Aw, gee.....another Teabaggin' History Major.

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    Stupid Fuckin' Bimbo

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    OMG!

    After years of witnessing a presidency strewn with unanswered questions about the President's relationship and attitude toward Islam.....

    ...and the only individual seemingly interested in a story that may be the key


    is the class buffoon, the one who writes with crayons.
     
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    Didn't Romney say he'd be doing the same, only more?
     
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    I never pass-up an opportunity to expose a bubbleheaded-bimbo, like yourself!!

     
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    Mitt Romney: arm the Syrian rebels

    Republican presidential candidate is to call for an escalation of the conflict in Syria in a major foreign policy address



    Mitt Romney will call for an escalation of the conflict in Syria by arming rebels with the heavy weapons needed to confront president Bashar al-Assad's tanks, helicopters and fighter jets.

    Romney is to make the proposal on Monday in what his campaign team has billed as a major foreign policy speech in Lexington, Virginia.

    In extracts published in advance, he opened up the prospect, if he becomes president, of a US-Iranian proxy war being fought in Syria.

    "Iran is sending arms to Assad because they know his downfall would be a strategic defeat for them. We should be working no less vigorously with our international partners to support the many Syrians who would deliver that defeat to Iran – rather than sitting on the sidelines," he said.


    Mitt Romney: arm the Syrian rebels | World news | guardian.co.uk

    Case closed...

    ...well, except for the part of the case where Old Grandmother comes back into the thread and rattles off a few smart remarks -

    or what apparently pass for smart remarks in the vast intellectually starved wasteland that is her habitat -

    and tries to make us believe they represent a rebuttal.
     
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    Did you read the OP, konny?


    If so......would you mind providing a link to the Romney promise to "support the insurgencies in the Middle East," and to arm "Islamic fighters from North Africa and Libya and jihadists."

    Is it your opinion that it would be wise, as a matter of foreign policy, to arm " al-Qaida jihadists"?

    Certainly, President Obama doesn't....he has run a re-election campaign based on decimating the same people......or has he?



    That's why the OP is timely, and why thinking people should pay attention to what has been going on.
     
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    Romney would be no different than Obama who is no different than Bush:

    Mitt Romney: arm the Syrian rebels | World news | guardian.co.uk
    We already know the CIA backs Al Qaida "rebels" in Syria. Mitt wants more of that.

    Nice "choice" we have this election cycle huh?
     
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    Try reading post 6.
     
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    Let see in a nut shell Raygun allowed the sale of missiles to Iran in hope of gaining the release of US hostages in Lebanon. Then they took those funds from the illegal sales and illegally funnelled them to the CIA supported terrorist group based in Costa Rica who were attacking poor peasants in Nicaragua. And you want to call this Obamas' Iran\Contra?

    Wow. All you guys have done for 4 years is try to equate some of the worst chapters in GOP History with anything theis President does. How many times?

    You really sound like the boy who cried wolfe.
     

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