Discussion in 'Politics' started by Gunny, May 8, 2008.
Translation: give more handouts and expect nothing in return.
I don't think that's what it means at all. I think it means we have to start setting an example again and not sink to the lowest common denominator.
That IS the only example we set. Nobody has cared whether we lived or dies since the Cold War ended because they have decided they are done needing us. Now we're only as good as what we can give them without it costing them a dime.
Otherwise, we never set any example we don't still set.
dunno... i don't think gulags and torture sets an example.
Speaking only for myself but from ferriner's perspective. BushCheney is an aberration, hopefully. I worry that McCain may be Bush III but I sincerely hope not. If Obama becomes president then it would be fine indeed to see the US return to its pre-BushCheney position of - in an amoral world - sort of moral leadership (hey no-one's perfect) because I don't want to see Russia, India or China in the position of world superpower.
It's sets an example. It tells people, do not FUCK with us or you could be next. Consequently, the world gets a little nervous when dealing with us, because they don't exactly know how we will respond. A little fear is a good thing.
Just another reminder that Obama is not a pacifist or really anti-war at all. He was against the Iraq war, not because we shouldn't push other countries around who haven't attacked us, but because it would weaken us strategically. He represents perhaps a return to the semi-sane pragmatic foreign policy of Bush Sr...which would be an improvement over junior though I suppose.
Obama is a socialist and the only people he'll be attacking are the ones who try to stop his new form of government from taking place.
Awesome, we can be the next unpredictable rogue state. I've always wanted the world to think of America like they do Iran or North Korea
The most powerful banana republic in history.
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