Obama, The Great Protector Of Our Climate Leaves Massive Carbon Footprint!

[jon_berzerk]

This just in . . . . Barack Obama just from his attendance at a World Summit on Climate Change (though I'm not exactly sure what he really knows or can do now, I mean, he isn't even a meteorologist), so how does the guy arrive and leave? He flies in on a massive private jet! Not enough? His jet was followed by a Helicopter (maybe his private chef and hairstylists were aboard), along with a 14-car convoy and 300 police on motorcycles.

But it wasn't all hard work for the guy. While there, he enjoyed a cruise on some sort of super-yacht. I gotta ask--- who paid for all of that? You know that Barack Obama isn't paying for anything out of HIS pocket! Barack Obama, just another great, selfless guy giving freely of his time for the good of the planet.

limousine liberals

do as i say not as i do

they are dime a dozen

 

[rightwinger]

This just in . . . . Barack Obama just from his attendance at a World Summit on Climate Change (though I'm not exactly sure what he really knows or can do now, I mean, he isn't even a meteorologist), so how does the guy arrive and leave? He flies in on a massive private jet! Not enough? His jet was followed by a Helicopter (maybe his private chef and hairstylists were aboard), along with a 14-car convoy and 300 police on motorcycles.

But it wasn't all hard work for the guy. While there, he enjoyed a cruise on some sort of super-yacht. I gotta ask--- who paid for all of that? You know that Barack Obama isn't paying for anything out of HIS pocket! Barack Obama, just another great, selfless guy giving freely of his time for the good of the planet.

Why do we always get these fake outrage threads from Conservatives?

No, those attending the climate change summit do not want to ban jet aircraft and cars. So their arrival by jet is not hypocrisy
What they do want to do is reduce the carbon footprint around the globe
That means they will discuss how to reduce emissions from factories, find more efficient automobiles, invest in alternative energy

 

[toobfreak]

First, theory is science.
Second, more CO2 => heightened greenhouse effect => warmer temperatures. FACT.

You shouldn't speak science to a scientist. Theory is not science. It is one step in the scientific process, but anyone can pull a theory out of their hat but that does not mean it is scientific.

As to the role of CO2, perhaps it would do you good to read this article I wrote a few years ago:

For those who may not know, the atmosphere really is as follows:

 78% Nitrogen
 21% Oxygen (from Plants mainly, essential for the animal life)

_That is 99% of your total atmosphere right there!_

That only leaves 1% left, as a combination of /trace gases./

 These trace gases can be further broken down into the Noble gases and IR 
storing gases which help to moderate our climate.

 Of that 1% trace gas left over, _9/10ths_ of that is ARGON, a harmless, 
inert gas.

 That leaves roughly 0.1%, or about 1/10th of 1/100th of the atmosphere 
left.

 The other remaining inert noble gases (combined total of 0.002% total
 atmosphere) are Neon, Helium, Krypton, Xenon, and also Hydrogen.

 Of the remaining (combined total less than 1/10th of 1%, or 0.098% of
the atmosphere) atmosphere left over, these are the IR storing
components, such as Water Vapor, Carbon Dioxide, Methane, Nitrous Oxide and Ozone, /combined/.

 Kind of puts things into perspective, doesn't it? 

Water Vapor, essential to life, is by far the largest, at 0.04%
(1/2500th%), and carbon dioxide (plant food, essential to plant life
 which sustains us), which is only 0.03%, or about 1/3000th% of the
 atmosphere.

 Methane, a far more powerful IR storing agent than water vapor and CO2
 combined, is at .0002%, and the remaining vestiges (roughly 0.0278% by
 subtraction) are made up of Nitrous Oxide and Ozone combined.

 The often lost fact is that free atmospheric CO2 is a very weak
 "greenhouse gas" and only exists in traces, and part of most everything
in the Earth is in the form of Carbon anyway.

People are carbon, trees 
are carbon, rocks are carbon. We exhale carbon dioxide. We are
carbon-based life. Burn anything--- you are pretty much left with
 carbon. CO2 is routinely exchanged from the rocks and oceans back into 
the air, back into feeding plants and then back into the Earth again.

Since time immortal, single volcanic and many other events of the past
have dramatically produced more "greenhouse gases" than all of man in 
history since the start of modern industrialization, and such events 
routinely happen over and again (such as Mt. Saint Helens) and is 
recycled over and over. And we are still here and the world is fine.

 Even cataclysmic events like super-volcanoes and asteroids that
 devastate the planet overnight, cannot overcome the equilibrium of the 
planet, which inevitably returns to how it is at present even after such
 a horrendous event.

 Changes in our climate, short of such cataclysms, are largely dictated by 
three natural cycles of the Earth along with natural cycles of the Sun.
 Right now, we are actually cooling off again. 

It is estimated that over the past several hundred years, CO2 gas in the 
air has gradually increased by 35% to the present 0.03% level compared
 to that of several hundred years ago. It has only reached that level 
now and even at that, still only constitutes less than 1/30th of 1% of 
the air, and so was even less during the rest of the industrialization 
age.

 99.97% of what you breathe is not carbon dioxide! If CO2 were that
 potent at such traces for so short a period of time, and the Earth's
 climate that fragile, the Earth would never have reached a stable point,
 let alone one so long as to allow the development of advanced life over
billions of years.

 The fact of the matter is that the whole "CO2 Scare" leaves out the fact
 that the Sun may be putting out less energy now than normal, and the 
extremely tiny modification to the retention of heat from carbon dioxide
may very well indeed be a welcome thing, if anything, to help moderate 
our cooling trend.