Obama Administration wins again

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The irony of this, of course, is had the House agreed to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the wealthy last year, there’d be considerably more revenue available to realize actual, substantive deficit reduction.

 

[Avorysuds]

Actually the fascists won.

Der Tea Party prevailed in getting what they wanted.

Swallow, would you like me to post again for you the Tea party bill? This bill that passed was nothing close to a TP bill. The TP bill balanced the budget in 5 years for starters.

Oh gosh..no.

No swallow for you.

My little tea party girlie man.

I ain't into the "Crying Game" thing.

Only blow jobs I like are from women.

Not girlie men.

Like you.

So no comment on the fact you lied about the "Tea party getting what they wanted?" Do you ever sit back and wonder why so many people just make fun of you? Maybe it has something to do with there is no depth to your posts, you purposely ignore simple, very simple information that proves you dead wrong so that you can for some unknown reason hold the same position of making it up as you go.

I'll answer for you, no you don't consider that you have no clout on these boards due to you letting your hate obviously get the best of you. You literally hate a group of people for reasons you have made up, it's weird.

 

[Seawytch]

The fact that the debt ceiling was tied to the budget in the first place and not a clean bill...like has been done 102 times since 1917, including 18 times for Reagan...means that the Tea Baggers *won".

*were mostly successful in their hostage negotiations

It can also be considered somewhat of a success for President Obama in that the main hostage, the debt ceiling, was not killed outright as many of the Tea Baggers wanted.

we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling if not for the failure of leadership from the white house.

So leadership "failed" about once a year for 100 years on average. So, what was different this time...other than this president?

 

[Avorysuds]

The irony of this, of course, is had the House agreed to allow the Bush tax cuts to expire for the wealthy last year, there’d be considerably more revenue available to realize actual, substantive deficit reduction.

Yeah, all they would have had to do was not have the Dem congress and Obama vote yes to extend them... ain't that a weird way of looking at thing, you know by being based on what happened. Like many keep saying to “you people,” there is a one party system and you support it.

 

[Seawytch]

The only thing the Tea Baggers wanted that they didn't get was the total collapse of the US economy.

 

[Avorysuds]

The fact that the debt ceiling was tied to the budget in the first place and not a clean bill...like has been done 102 times since 1917, including 18 times for Reagan...means that the Tea Baggers *won".

*were mostly successful in their hostage negotiations

It can also be considered somewhat of a success for President Obama in that the main hostage, the debt ceiling, was not killed outright as many of the Tea Baggers wanted.

we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling if not for the failure of leadership from the white house.

So leadership "failed" about once a year for 100 years on average. So, what was different this time...other than this president?

Well let me spell it out for you because it seems even you have lost sight of what the whole entire point that Obama, the Dems, Republicans, you, your dog, the cat the fish and everyone else in the whole world that you know or have ever met have made.... So let’s see if this time, this one time you can remember what the whole issue is about... I know people say America has short term memory but remember that would include you.

So here it is, one last time... If we didn’t up the debt ceiling our credit rating would get brought down... Now watch this, it will blow you mind! Under Obama, this budget matters because (pay attention!) the shit crap, worthless bill that passed could still very likely get out credit rating lowered.

Do you see, was that easy enough for you to understand???? It's not because Obama is a Democrat, it's not because he is black... It's because this is the problems of our time that have built up over a long time and these are the politicians that just so happen to be here to deal with it.

 

[whitehall]

You can spin a disaster out of the current deal if you want to and you can probably find a lot of stuff to back it up but consider what would have happened if the GOP didn't win the majority in congress. We wouldn't even be talking about caps on spending. Rational Americans need to consider the positive impact of the patriots that called themselves the Tea Party. If they didn't put some backbone into the usually noodle spined GOP Barry would be spending us so deeply into debt that we would wake up some day to a global financial catastrophe that would make the Great Depression look like a walk in the patk

 

[Avorysuds]

The only thing the Tea Baggers wanted that they didn't get was the total collapse of the US economy.

/sigh...

The "Tea baggers" are the only group of the 4 (Dems/Obama/Reps?Tea Party) that offered a balanced budget, in 5 years... with a surplus... Of course you would rather a bill made by Neocons and Dems gets passed but when no one likes it you try and pawn it off on the Tea Party, nice... lol.

 

[BDBoop]

The only thing the Tea Baggers wanted that they didn't get was the total collapse of the US economy.

I think they would have been happier if all the sludge hadn't boomeranged right back at them.

 

[Seawytch]

The only thing the Tea Baggers wanted that they didn't get was the total collapse of the US economy.

/sigh...

The "Tea baggers" are the only group of the 4 (Dems/Obama/Reps?Tea Party) that offered a balanced budget, in 5 years... with a surplus... Of course you would rather a bill made by Neocons and Dems gets passed but when no one likes it you try and pawn it off on the Tea Party, nice... lol.

Not true.

The People's Budget

 

[oreo]

More Marxism from this Administration and another giant step towards finally collapsing our nation. Here are some facts about this awful bill:


To paraphrase Senator Jim DeMint: When you're speeding toward the edge of a cliff, you don't set the cruise control. You stop the car. The current deal to raise the debt ceiling doesn't stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. At best, it slows us from going over it at 80 mph to going over it at 60 mph.

■ Adds at least $7 trillion to our debt over the next 10 years. The deal purports to "cut" $2.1 trillion, but the "cut" is from a baseline that adds $10 trillion to the debt. This deal, even if all targets are met and the Super Committee wields its mandate - results in a BEST case scenario of still adding more than $7 trillion more in debt over the next 10 years. That is sickening.

■ Never, ever balances.

■ The Super Committee's mandate is to add $7 trillion in new debt. Let's be clear: $2.1 trillion in reductions off a nearly $10 trillion,10-year debt is still more than $7 trillion in debt. The Super Committee limits the constitutional check of the filibuster by expediting passage of bills with a simple majority. The Super Committee is not precluded from any issue, therefore the filibuster could be rendered moot. In addition, the plan harms the possible passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment. Since the goal is never to balance, having the BBA as a "trigger" ensures that the committee will simply report its $1.2 trillion deficit reduction plan and never move to a BBA vote.

■ It cuts too slowly. Even if you believe cutting $2.1 trillion out of $10 trillion is a good compromise, surely we can start cutting quickly, say $200 billion-$300 billion per year, right? Wrong. This plan so badly backloads the alleged savings that the cuts are simply meaningless. Why do we believe that the goal of $2.5 trillion over 10 years (that's an average of $250 billion per year) will EVER be met if the first two years cuts are $20 billion and $50 billion. There is simply no path in this bill even to the meager savings they are alleging will take place

To the Tea Party - I say thank you for your efforts. You fought one hell of a fight and made a huge difference with the American people.

To the GOP - I say you failed us once again. And once again, you proved that you are just big government, big spending, liberals.

To the Dumbocrats - I say congratulations. The party that has been hijacked by radical Marxists/Socialists/Communists is one step closer to their ultimate goal of bringing down America, and replacing it's Capitalism with Communism. You even managed to convince your followers that the Tea Party "won" with this new bill so you can later blame them for the failure. I've got to hand it to you radicals - you are damn good with the insane propaganda. Somewhere (most likely in hell - where most of you will end up), Joseph Stalin is proud.

What's worse than all that. Is most of the "cuts" Are not immediate, and will actually require Future Congresses to pass legislation to make it legal. Which of course we can all assume will not happen.

This deal is a shame. All parties involved should be removed from office for incompetence.

If Obama wins re-election Americans are the stupidest people on planet earth. In a nut shell what he has done. Is come into office on a wave that in part was saying "Bush spent to much and crashed the economy" then once in office increased non Defense Discretionary spending by over 80%, Then make a big deal about agreeing to, down the road, cut out a small % of that new Spending, While all the while saying we need more taxes to pay for all his new Non Defense Discretionary spending. So if you guys vote for this man. You are fools. he thinks you are so stupid that he can shovel Shit Down your throats and you will smile and say, Can I have 2nds.

And before you get excited Republicans. I feel the same damn way about 80% of the GOP right now. Including Boner. To hell with them all. Time start studying 3rd party candidates. LOL Really am that fed up with Both Political Parties.

It will happen if we elect more tea party politicians. Obviously they have no problem what-so-ever with taking on liberal democrats and rino republicans.

For a super MINORITY in the congress--tea party politicians held their ground--they didn't cave.--And for the FIRST time ever--even though we have been promised this for decades--there will be a stand alone vote on a balanced budget amendment. That would have never happened without the tea party movement in this country.--

 

[P@triot]

More Marxism from this Administration and another giant step towards finally collapsing our nation. Here are some facts about this awful bill:


To paraphrase Senator Jim DeMint: When you're speeding toward the edge of a cliff, you don't set the cruise control. You stop the car. The current deal to raise the debt ceiling doesn't stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. At best, it slows us from going over it at 80 mph to going over it at 60 mph.

■ Adds at least $7 trillion to our debt over the next 10 years. The deal purports to "cut" $2.1 trillion, but the "cut" is from a baseline that adds $10 trillion to the debt. This deal, even if all targets are met and the Super Committee wields its mandate - results in a BEST case scenario of still adding more than $7 trillion more in debt over the next 10 years. That is sickening.

■ Never, ever balances.

■ The Super Committee's mandate is to add $7 trillion in new debt. Let's be clear: $2.1 trillion in reductions off a nearly $10 trillion,10-year debt is still more than $7 trillion in debt. The Super Committee limits the constitutional check of the filibuster by expediting passage of bills with a simple majority. The Super Committee is not precluded from any issue, therefore the filibuster could be rendered moot. In addition, the plan harms the possible passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment. Since the goal is never to balance, having the BBA as a "trigger" ensures that the committee will simply report its $1.2 trillion deficit reduction plan and never move to a BBA vote.

■ It cuts too slowly. Even if you believe cutting $2.1 trillion out of $10 trillion is a good compromise, surely we can start cutting quickly, say $200 billion-$300 billion per year, right? Wrong. This plan so badly backloads the alleged savings that the cuts are simply meaningless. Why do we believe that the goal of $2.5 trillion over 10 years (that's an average of $250 billion per year) will EVER be met if the first two years cuts are $20 billion and $50 billion. There is simply no path in this bill even to the meager savings they are alleging will take place

To the Tea Party - I say thank you for your efforts. You fought one hell of a fight and made a huge difference with the American people.

To the GOP - I say you failed us once again. And once again, you proved that you are just big government, big spending, liberals.

To the Dumbocrats - I say congratulations. The party that has been hijacked by radical Marxists/Socialists/Communists is one step closer to their ultimate goal of bringing down America, and replacing it's Capitalism with Communism. You even managed to convince your followers that the Tea Party "won" with this new bill so you can later blame them for the failure. I've got to hand it to you radicals - you are damn good with the insane propaganda. Somewhere (most likely in hell - where most of you will end up), Joseph Stalin is proud.

What's worse than all that. Is most of the "cuts" Are not immediate, and will actually require Future Congresses to pass legislation to make it legal. Which of course we can all assume will not happen.

This deal is a shame. All parties involved should be removed from office for incompetence.

If Obama wins re-election Americans are the stupidest people on planet earth. In a nut shell what he has done. Is come into office on a wave that in part was saying "Bush spent to much and crashed the economy" then once in office increased non Defense Discretionary spending by over 80%, Then make a big deal about agreeing to, down the road, cut out a small % of that new Spending, While all the while saying we need more taxes to pay for all his new Non Defense Discretionary spending. So if you guys vote for this man. You are fools. he thinks you are so stupid that he can shovel Shit Down your throats and you will smile and say, Can I have 2nds.

And before you get excited Republicans. I feel the same damn way about 80% of the GOP right now. Including Boner. To hell with them all. Time start studying 3rd party candidates. LOL Really am that fed up with Both Political Parties.

It will happen if we elect more tea party politicians. Obviously they have no problem what-so-ever with taking on liberal democrats and rino republicans.

For a super MINORITY in the congress--tea party politicians held their ground--they didn't cave.--And for the FIRST time ever--even though we have been promised this for decades--there will be a stand alone vote on a balanced budget amendment. That would have never happened without the tea party movement in this country.--

Very true oreo! I love the paralyzing fear they've created in the left. They realize America has woken up and has come to take their country back from these Marxists/Socialists/Communists, and it has them in complete panic.

 

[Avorysuds]

The only thing the Tea Baggers wanted that they didn't get was the total collapse of the US economy.

/sigh...

The "Tea baggers" are the only group of the 4 (Dems/Obama/Reps?Tea Party) that offered a balanced budget, in 5 years... with a surplus... Of course you would rather a bill made by Neocons and Dems gets passed but when no one likes it you try and pawn it off on the Tea Party, nice... lol.

Not true.

The People's Budget

Did the Dems put this budget up for a vote? Or are we changing what we're talking about? You said the TP got what they wanted, I proved you wrong.

 

[P@triot]

Can the Tea Party please STFU and let the economy recover now? tyvm. Pass some of those jobs bills and trade treaties you're blocking for NO REASON> tyvm

How can the economy recover when the Marxist Obama hates capitalism? He's determined to crush capitalism, whether it's by regulation, taxes, anti-capitalist rhetoric, or by spending us into collapse.

Sorry folks, nobody is this stupid. Not even the dumbocrats. When you've added $5 trillion to the debt in only 2.5 years, bringing the total to $14 trillion, and your begging for a raise in the ceiling so you can add even more to the debt, you're clearly trying to collapse an economy. Just look at the breaking news today:

The former comptroller general — which heads the Government Accountability Office — had some unsettling words regarding U.S. debt and the recent debt debate. According to him, the U.S. is on its way to becoming like Greece, whose debt problems have plummeted that country into economic hell.

“We are less than three years away from where Greece had its debt crisis as to where they were from debt to GDP,” David Walker told CNBC.

Nice job Dumbocrats! We'll be just like Greece thanks to your complete ignorance regarding economics, your greed, and your laziness...

 

[hortysir]

The fact that the debt ceiling was tied to the budget in the first place and not a clean bill...like has been done 102 times since 1917, including 18 times for Reagan...means that the Tea Baggers *won".

*were mostly successful in their hostage negotiations

It can also be considered somewhat of a success for President Obama in that the main hostage, the debt ceiling, was not killed outright as many of the Tea Baggers wanted.

we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling if not for the failure of leadership from the white house.

BettyBoop and Seahag didn't get the irony, Del

 

[KissMy]

Oh yeah - Bernanke, Obama, Krugman & the Democrats are all true blue believers in "Keynesian Economics". That is exactly why I bought 100oz of Gold after Obama won the election. I expect nothing less than a full on Keynesian cash injection. Why else do you think there has not been a budget? There is no reason to budget when you are trying to find things to throw money at.

NYT January 2008: Ben Bernanke gets all Keynesian on us

My investment in gold & silver have made me $100,000 since the Obamacrats took office.

Keep up the good work Obamacrats. I hope you enjoy high prices. I know I am.

 

[Seawytch]

The fact that the debt ceiling was tied to the budget in the first place and not a clean bill...like has been done 102 times since 1917, including 18 times for Reagan...means that the Tea Baggers *won".

*were mostly successful in their hostage negotiations

It can also be considered somewhat of a success for President Obama in that the main hostage, the debt ceiling, was not killed outright as many of the Tea Baggers wanted.

we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling if not for the failure of leadership from the white house.

BettyBoop and Seahag didn't get the irony, Del

I think it's you that is missing the irony. Tea Bagger god Ronald Reagan asked for debt limit increases to the tune of almost 200%. Why such opposition to this President?

 

[Jarhead]

we wouldn't have to raise the debt ceiling if not for the failure of leadership from the white house.

BettyBoop and Seahag didn't get the irony, Del

I think it's you that is missing the irony. Tea Bagger god Ronald Reagan asked for debt limit increases to the tune of almost 200%. Why such opposition to this President?

becuase our debt has grown to the point of no return...could be any president....has nothing to do with THIS president

 

[editec]

More Marxism from this Administration and another giant step towards finally collapsing our nation. Here are some facts about this awful bill:


To paraphrase Senator Jim DeMint: When you're speeding toward the edge of a cliff, you don't set the cruise control. You stop the car. The current deal to raise the debt ceiling doesn't stop us from going over the fiscal cliff. At best, it slows us from going over it at 80 mph to going over it at 60 mph.

■ Adds at least $7 trillion to our debt over the next 10 years. The deal purports to "cut" $2.1 trillion, but the "cut" is from a baseline that adds $10 trillion to the debt. This deal, even if all targets are met and the Super Committee wields its mandate - results in a BEST case scenario of still adding more than $7 trillion more in debt over the next 10 years. That is sickening.

■ Never, ever balances.

■ The Super Committee's mandate is to add $7 trillion in new debt. Let's be clear: $2.1 trillion in reductions off a nearly $10 trillion,10-year debt is still more than $7 trillion in debt. The Super Committee limits the constitutional check of the filibuster by expediting passage of bills with a simple majority. The Super Committee is not precluded from any issue, therefore the filibuster could be rendered moot. In addition, the plan harms the possible passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment. Since the goal is never to balance, having the BBA as a "trigger" ensures that the committee will simply report its $1.2 trillion deficit reduction plan and never move to a BBA vote.

■ It cuts too slowly. Even if you believe cutting $2.1 trillion out of $10 trillion is a good compromise, surely we can start cutting quickly, say $200 billion-$300 billion per year, right? Wrong. This plan so badly backloads the alleged savings that the cuts are simply meaningless. Why do we believe that the goal of $2.5 trillion over 10 years (that's an average of $250 billion per year) will EVER be met if the first two years cuts are $20 billion and $50 billion. There is simply no path in this bill even to the meager savings they are alleging will take place

To the Tea Party - I say thank you for your efforts. You fought one hell of a fight and made a huge difference with the American people.

To the GOP - I say you failed us once again. And once again, you proved that you are just big government, big spending, liberals.

To the Dumbocrats - I say congratulations. The party that has been hijacked by radical Marxists/Socialists/Communists is one step closer to their ultimate goal of bringing down America, and replacing it's Capitalism with Communism. You even managed to convince your followers that the Tea Party "won" with this new bill so you can later blame them for the failure. I've got to hand it to you radicals - you are damn good with the insane propaganda. Somewhere (most likely in hell - where most of you will end up), Joseph Stalin is proud.

Di you really imagine that the masters of our universe are seeking COMMUNISM?

Both parties are Steppin Fetchits for the billionair class.

You think billionairs are conspiring to make the world communist?

Seriously?!

I find that rather hard to believe.

Now if you had used the word TOTALITARIAN to describe the direction we're headed, I'd agree with you.

 

[The Rabbi]

how can he be a marxist if companies are sitting on two trillion in cash and this crapfest the teaparty had a hissy fit over stalled them from spending some it to create some jobs?

You would think with him being a Marxist they all would be in the red.

Why do you suppose they are sitting on cash, collecting less than 1% interest when they could be investing in businesses earning 15% after tax?
Maybe the risk environment is bad? Hmm? Do you have a fucking clue what your'e talking about?

how does this make Obama a Marxist?

Answer the question, moron. Assuming you can.