Not a smidgen of evidence our border isn't secure..

[Camp]

Proof President Obama is Not Interested in Enforcing Immigration Law Speaker.gov

All you are doing is posting blogs, this one from speaker Boehner that harp on the various terms of how immigrants are sent back, removed or deported. It is nothing more than a play on words that was used to make the accusations of the sort you are making. Fact is the laws are being enforced to the best of the immigration and border control people can do without further financing and reform. More people are being sent back to Mexico than ever before. Your silly argument is no longer argued much anymore because it is just an argument about calling a process of removal a deportation and deportations are only done through court action. The immigration service is using a system where the court is bypassed with cooperation of the offender and hence, deportation becomes removal. That is the only thing you are proving. Has nothing to do with actual enforcement or results.

 

[Camp]

you are simply a coward

and you're making a damn fool of yourself

it's hilarious the way you idiots run around accusing others of being low-info, or living in denial about certain realities, then you run around trying to nit-pick stuff that is thrown in your face, reality chump. Deal with it

No, I know what is going on and you don't. You are in fact part of the low info element. DHS began a new policy at the beginning of July, just three weeks ago, to integrate specifically classified immigrants and shift it's focus to other groups of immigrants. This was done because Obama is tired of waiting for congress to make any progress on immigration reform so he is using his executive powers to accomplish his goals instead of waiting for the do nothing congress. DHS has begun implementing policies that do not concentrate on Dreamer Families or promote breaking up families that have been in this country for a long time and have some members that are American citizens.

ibtimes.com/immigration-reform-2015-dhs-decreases-deportations-integrates-undocumented-immigrants-1994864

 

[bedowin62]

you are simply a coward

and you're making a damn fool of yourself

it's hilarious the way you idiots run around accusing others of being low-info, or living in denial about certain realities, then you run around trying to nit-pick stuff that is thrown in your face, reality chump. Deal with it

No, I know what is going on and you don't. You are in fact part of the low info element. DHS began a new policy at the beginning of July, just three weeks ago, to integrate specifically classified immigrants and shift it's focus to other groups of immigrants. This was done because Obama is tired of waiting for congress to make any progress on immigration reform so he is using his executive powers to accomplish his goals instead of waiting for the do nothing congress. DHS has begun implementing policies that do not concentrate on Dreamer Families or promote breaking up families that have been in this country for a long time and have some members that are American citizens.

ibtimes.com/immigration-reform-2015-dhs-decreases-deportations-integrates-undocumented-immigrants-1994864

lol what an idiot

you expect people to believe that people who took in tens of thousands of illegals; refusing even sitting Senators to visit the camps they were held in; and bused them all over the country and released them to people who werent even relatives ON A PROMISE TO (DIS)APPEAR, have increased deportations?
you are nothing but a useful idiot

 

[bedowin62]

you are simply a coward

and you're making a damn fool of yourself

it's hilarious the way you idiots run around accusing others of being low-info, or living in denial about certain realities, then you run around trying to nit-pick stuff that is thrown in your face, reality chump. Deal with it

No, I know what is going on and you don't. You are in fact part of the low info element. DHS began a new policy at the beginning of July, just three weeks ago, to integrate specifically classified immigrants and shift it's focus to other groups of immigrants. This was done because Obama is tired of waiting for congress to make any progress on immigration reform so he is using his executive powers to accomplish his goals instead of waiting for the do nothing congress. DHS has begun implementing policies that do not concentrate on Dreamer Families or promote breaking up families that have been in this country for a long time and have some members that are American citizens.

ibtimes.com/immigration-reform-2015-dhs-decreases-deportations-integrates-undocumented-immigrants-1994864

At some point in time you guys will be scratching your heads and pissed off about Obama getting his stuff done without the use of Congress and wondering how he got over on you.

more hilarity

at the same time idiots like you still mumble "obstruction" out of the other corner of your mouth

just comical!

 

[Redfish]

Our concerns appear to be ignored. Where do we go from here? Wait patiently while our leaders try to solve the problem(s)? Maybe we need someone brash and radical to move us in the right direction. Restore us to our destined place in the world. Scare the shit out of the progressive pansies.

Donald Trump has been a progressive his entire adult life. He has changed his script because the Tea Party and radical right are the easiest folks to scam. You make fun and criticize the Huff Post, but the conservative news media is not showing you the Trump from the past, they are showing you the Trump that Trump wants them to show today.

maybe he is following obama's example and "evolving"

I have always been a pragmatist. I believe in doing things and solving problems in a practical, pragmatic way that solves the problem with the least coast and effort and ignores emotional impulses that distract from accomplishing the goal.

great, too bad obama doesn't share that view.

 

[Camp]

Our concerns appear to be ignored. Where do we go from here? Wait patiently while our leaders try to solve the problem(s)? Maybe we need someone brash and radical to move us in the right direction. Restore us to our destined place in the world. Scare the shit out of the progressive pansies.

Donald Trump has been a progressive his entire adult life. He has changed his script because the Tea Party and radical right are the easiest folks to scam. You make fun and criticize the Huff Post, but the conservative news media is not showing you the Trump from the past, they are showing you the Trump that Trump wants them to show today.

maybe he is following obama's example and "evolving"

I have always been a pragmatist. I believe in doing things and solving problems in a practical, pragmatic way that solves the problem with the least coast and effort and ignores emotional impulses that distract from accomplishing the goal.

great, too bad obama doesn't share that view.

To bad all politicians aren't that way.

 

[deltex1]

Right! Your thread title is so dripping with sarcasm that most FFOs believed you were defending this stupid statement made by Obama:
White House stands by claim that border security is stronger than ever
Under the heading “border security” on the White House website's section on President Obama's immigration proposal, the whitehouse.gov website gives the president credit for having "doubled the number of Border Patrol agents," saying "today border security is stronger than it ever has been."

The White House says the statement is true despite the estimated 52,000 unattended children who have crossed the southwest border so far this year and the roughly 90,000 expected by fall.

White House stands by claim that border security is stronger than ever Washington Examiner

The article is over a year old and the kids crossing the border were picked up by border agents and detained.

YOU IDIOT; you're making a claim that a border is secure because 100,000 or so CHILDREN were detained AFTER crossing it?

no wonder libs cant be taken seriously

I didn't make the claim that the border was secure, in fact I commented that it would take far more border control agents than anyone is willing to pay for. Using a year old article does not address the problem, nor does using an arbitrary violation of the border. The issue will not be addressed until serious bipartisan debate and cooperative dedication to problem solving becomes a reality. That will include making a consensus regarding funding, whether by building walls and fences or deploying a larger border patrol force. As long as a segment and faction insist there will be no new revenue raising programs (taxes) the issue will be nothing more than talk and more talk with no solution being implemented. My view is that the border is not as secure as it could or should be because congress is not willing to raise the revenue that is need to accomplish such a goal.

As usual your solution is to spend mo money....how much can red necks with rifles cost?

 

[Camp]

you are simply a coward

and you're making a damn fool of yourself

it's hilarious the way you idiots run around accusing others of being low-info, or living in denial about certain realities, then you run around trying to nit-pick stuff that is thrown in your face, reality chump. Deal with it

No, I know what is going on and you don't. You are in fact part of the low info element. DHS began a new policy at the beginning of July, just three weeks ago, to integrate specifically classified immigrants and shift it's focus to other groups of immigrants. This was done because Obama is tired of waiting for congress to make any progress on immigration reform so he is using his executive powers to accomplish his goals instead of waiting for the do nothing congress. DHS has begun implementing policies that do not concentrate on Dreamer Families or promote breaking up families that have been in this country for a long time and have some members that are American citizens.

ibtimes.com/immigration-reform-2015-dhs-decreases-deportations-integrates-undocumented-immigrants-1994864

lol what an idiot

you expect people to believe that people who took in tens of thousands of illegals; refusing even sitting Senators to visit the camps they were held in; and bused them all over the country and released them to people who werent even relatives ON A PROMISE TO (DIS)APPEAR, have increased deportations?
you are nothing but a useful idiot

You are having a melt down. Take two aspirins and call us in the morning.

everybody here knows you're a self-deluding intellectual coward dude

I don't care what those people getting drunk in the freebie basement living quarters you live in think.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Stop attacking each other and stick to the topic