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And gays advocates insist that ONLY heteros molest children
Well, sure, in your hypothetical, that is correct.Personally, I have always looked at men who diddle boys as something other than heterosexuals. But, maybe that's just me.
Anyway, I am quite comfortable with saying the same thing the APA says - heteros and homos are equally likely to be kid diddlers. Seems rather a sensible thing to conclude.
Unless we classify men who diddle boys, yet maintain heterosexual adult relationships, as homosexuals. Odd combination makes for a difficult classification, in my book. So, maybe kid diddlers are just mostly kid diddlers.
But, I am far from convinced that homosexuals are the majority who do the kid diddling. That's just inaccurate. I am also far from convinced that heterosexuals are the majority who do the kid diddling, either (for my stated reasons above).
Well, they can say that but you don't get it.
Say you have 10 kids molested and five of the kids were molested by gay men and five of the kids were molested by heteros.
But since gay men are only 2% of the population as compared to 98% heteros, what PERCENTAGE of gay men in the population are molesting kids as compared to heteros!
THAT'S what you are trying hard to ignore lest you be called, "homophobic!"
And, I don't give a flying fuck if I'm called homophobic or not. I love gay men, but my experience with lezzies here, in the past, and two currently in RL give me an experience of nothing but bitter women who have serious issues. Homophobia means fear, which is inaccurate for me - I just haven't had found any reason to respect any lesbian yet.
Holy shit TeaPartySammurai is dumb. Not only does she think her pussy has magic inside of it, she actually believes that 1920s-era stereotype about gay people all being pedophiles. Oh, I get it now. You're Dr. Laura aren't you?
Look Magic Pussy, social science has come a long way since you first discovered magic inside your pussy. We know now that all those little lies that were told about gay people are just plain wrong. The fact is that pedophilia has absolutely nothing to do with being either a heterosexual or a homosexual, but rather with the own person's pedophilia. I know you're going to scream and rant and rave, but no matter what you say, no matter what you try to infer, you are wrong.
Let me repeat: You.are.wrong. And if you can just hurry up and die, it'll make human evolution that much easier in the long-run.
Thanks for your time Magic Pussy.
Paiderastia
The ancient Greeks accepted homosexual behavior as a normal part of a man's sexual activity and cultivated it as a socially beneficial custom called paiderastia (literally, love of boys, from pais: boy or rather here: male adolescent, and eran: to love). These love relationships were never seen as obstacles to marriage and fatherhood.
(After an ancient Greek vase painting)
The form of homosexuality that was most common in ancient Greece was pederasty, meaning a relationship between an adult man and a male youth. For the Greeks, pederasty was more than a sexual pasttime or preference - it was nearly a social institution. A same-sex relationship between an older man, probably in his 20s or 30s, known as the erastes, and a beardless boy, the eromenos or paidika, became a cultural ideal. The relationship was regarded as mutually beneficial, as the older man would educate, protect, love, and provide a role model for his lover, while the eromenos offered his partner with beauty, youth, admiration, and love.
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logic impaired
Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - ReligionFacts
The fact is, this was considered NORMAL in Ancient Greece.
And if it has changed that much since Ancient Greece why are gays always trying to force themselves into institutions that deal primarily with children?
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Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - ReligionFacts
The fact is, this was considered NORMAL in Ancient Greece.
And if it has changed that much since Ancient Greece why are gays always trying to force themselves into institutions that deal primarily with children?
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ROTFL!
Religion facts! Now that is rich!
For the ancients, many historians agree, sexuality was not a separate realm of experience, the core of private life; instead it was directly linked to social power and status. People were judged by public behavior, for which there were clear roles; marriage, for instance, was a duty that bore no necessary relationship to erotic satisfaction. Socially powerful males (citizens) enjoyed sexual access to almost all other members of the society (including, in Greece, enslaved males, younger free males, foreigners, and women of all classes).(Clausen, Beyond Gay or Straight, p. 51)
First, the expression of sexuality was centered on a fundamental inequity, not only in male-female relationships, but also between male partners in a homosexual relationship. (King, Sowing the Field: Greek and Roman Sexology, p. 29 in Sexual Knowledge Sexual Science: The History of the Attitudes in Sexuality editors Roy Porter and Mikulas Teich)
In Greece the sexual relationship was assumed to be a power relationship, where one participant is dominate and the other inferior. On one side stands the free adult male; on the other, women, slaves, and boys. Sexual roles are isomorphic with social roles; indeed, sexual behavior is seen as a reflection of social relationship not as itself the dominant theme. Thus it is important for us to remember that for the Greeks it was ones role, not ones gender, that was salient. Sexual objects come in two different kinds not male and female but active and passive. (Downing, Myths and Mysteries of Same-Sex Love, p.135-136)
Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - ReligionFacts
The fact is, this was considered NORMAL in Ancient Greece.
And if it has changed that much since Ancient Greece why are gays always trying to force themselves into institutions that deal primarily with children?
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ROTFL!
Religion facts! Now that is rich!
You didn't actually READ the site did you? It's not a Christian site. It's about World Religions (moron). It also have stuff on Buddism, Hinduism.
All your laughing did was reveal YOUR NARROW MINDED PRESUPPOSTION. It didn't disprove my evidence. NEXT time. Check out the site fiist.
But I did forget to add a link. The picture for the vase was an this link
Not Persons, but Behaviors
But if you don't believe that you can read this. Look I'm telling no secrets. Any student of Ancient Greek history will tell you the "normal" Greek relationship was a an older man with a younger youth. As oppsed to an ancient youth?
For the ancients, many historians agree, sexuality was not a separate realm of experience, the core of private life; instead it was directly linked to social power and status. People were judged by public behavior, for which there were clear roles; marriage, for instance, was a duty that bore no necessary relationship to erotic satisfaction. Socially powerful males (citizens) enjoyed sexual access to almost all other members of the society (including, in Greece, enslaved males, younger free males, foreigners, and women of all classes).(Clausen, Beyond Gay or Straight, p. 51)
First, the expression of sexuality was centered on a fundamental inequity, not only in male-female relationships, but also between male partners in a homosexual relationship. (King, Sowing the Field: Greek and Roman Sexology, p. 29 in Sexual Knowledge Sexual Science: The History of the Attitudes in Sexuality editors Roy Porter and Mikulas Teich)
In Greece the sexual relationship was assumed to be a power relationship, where one participant is dominate and the other inferior. On one side stands the free adult male; on the other, women, slaves, and boys. Sexual roles are isomorphic with social roles; indeed, sexual behavior is seen as a reflection of social relationship not as itself the dominant theme. Thus it is important for us to remember that for the Greeks it was ones role, not ones gender, that was salient. Sexual objects come in two different kinds not male and female but active and passive. (Downing, Myths and Mysteries of Same-Sex Love, p.135-136)
Homosexuality in Ancient Greece
So, I will REPEAT. In Greece it was an OLDER MALE (and might I add MORE POWERFUL MALE) with a younger boy.
This was considered quite normal in Greece and there is no argument about this.
There is too much literature, art, and even sculpture to deny this was the case in Greece.
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logic impaired
Holy shit TeaPartySammurai is dumb. Not only does she think her pussy has magic inside of it, she actually believes that 1920s-era stereotype about gay people all being pedophiles. Oh, I get it now. You're Dr. Laura aren't you?
Look Magic Pussy, social science has come a long way since you first discovered magic inside your pussy. We know now that all those little lies that were told about gay people are just plain wrong. The fact is that pedophilia has absolutely nothing to do with being either a heterosexual or a homosexual, but rather with the own person's pedophilia. I know you're going to scream and rant and rave, but no matter what you say, no matter what you try to infer, you are wrong.
Let me repeat: You.are.wrong. And if you can just hurry up and die, it'll make human evolution that much easier in the long-run.
Thanks for your time Magic Pussy.
1920s? Are you trying to sound Stupid. I'm talking about ANCIENT GREECE. That's a LOT farther back than the 1920s you mindless moron!
Paiderastia
The ancient Greeks accepted homosexual behavior as a normal part of a man's sexual activity and cultivated it as a socially beneficial custom called paiderastia (literally, love of boys, from pais: boy or rather here: male adolescent, and eran: to love). These love relationships were never seen as obstacles to marriage and fatherhood.
(After an ancient Greek vase painting)
The form of homosexuality that was most common in ancient Greece was pederasty, meaning a relationship between an adult man and a male youth. For the Greeks, pederasty was more than a sexual pasttime or preference - it was nearly a social institution. A same-sex relationship between an older man, probably in his 20s or 30s, known as the erastes, and a beardless boy, the eromenos or paidika, became a cultural ideal. The relationship was regarded as mutually beneficial, as the older man would educate, protect, love, and provide a role model for his lover, while the eromenos offered his partner with beauty, youth, admiration, and love.
Homosexuality in Ancient Greece - ReligionFacts
The fact is, this was considered NORMAL in Ancient Greece.
And if it has changed that much since Ancient Greece why are gays always trying to force themselves into institutions that deal primarily with children?
ROTFL!
Religion facts! Now that is rich!
You didn't actually READ the site did you? It's not a Christian site. It's about World Religions (moron). It also have stuff on Buddism, Hinduism.
All your laughing did was reveal YOUR NARROW MINDED PRESUPPOSTION. It didn't disprove my evidence. NEXT time. Check out the site fiist.
But I did forget to add a link. The picture for the vase was an this link
Not Persons, but Behaviors
But if you don't believe that you can read this. Look I'm telling no secrets. Any student of Ancient Greek history will tell you the "normal" Greek relationship was a an older man with a younger youth. As oppsed to an ancient youth?
For the ancients, many historians agree, sexuality was not a separate realm of experience, the core of private life; instead it was directly linked to social power and status. People were judged by public behavior, for which there were clear roles; marriage, for instance, was a duty that bore no necessary relationship to erotic satisfaction. Socially powerful males (citizens) enjoyed sexual access to almost all other members of the society (including, in Greece, enslaved males, younger free males, foreigners, and women of all classes).(Clausen, Beyond Gay or Straight, p. 51)
First, the expression of sexuality was centered on a fundamental inequity, not only in male-female relationships, but also between male partners in a homosexual relationship. (King, Sowing the Field: Greek and Roman Sexology, p. 29 in Sexual Knowledge Sexual Science: The History of the Attitudes in Sexuality editors Roy Porter and Mikulas Teich)
In Greece the sexual relationship was assumed to be a power relationship, where one participant is dominate and the other inferior. On one side stands the free adult male; on the other, women, slaves, and boys. Sexual roles are isomorphic with social roles; indeed, sexual behavior is seen as a reflection of social relationship not as itself the dominant theme. Thus it is important for us to remember that for the Greeks it was ones role, not ones gender, that was salient. Sexual objects come in two different kinds not male and female but active and passive. (Downing, Myths and Mysteries of Same-Sex Love, p.135-136)
Homosexuality in Ancient Greece
So, I will REPEAT. In Greece it was an OLDER MALE (and might I add MORE POWERFUL MALE) with a younger boy.
This was considered quite normal in Greece and there is no argument about this.
There is too much literature, art, and even sculpture to deny this was the case in Greece.
Moron?!?!?
I stand by my statement that the words Religion and Facts in conjunction is Hillarious!
Like Jumbo Shrimp. Or cumming a little, or most unique.
Yes that is why anal sex is called Greek in some circles.
Your revelation was far from a revelation.
I will also repeat: you are a bigoted twat. You don't know anything you weren't told about in Sunday School or on Fox News.
Want to know why gay people are trying to get into the Bot Scout troupes as leaders? So they can help with their kids, Magic Pussy. That's right, we let the gays adopt now! And some even make babies with surrogates and *gasp* provide them loving homes.
It's idiots like you that history will judge harshest. And you deserve it, Magic Pussy.
Homosexuals more likely to molest kids, study reports
By Ken Walker
May 30, 2001
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP)--A social researcher who has studied sexual behavior for 24 years believes the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has sound reasons for maintaining its prohibition against gay scoutmasters.
A homosexual cannot automatically be considered a child molester, said Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education in suburban Louisville, Ky.
But with 17-24 percent of boys being abused by age 18, nearly as many as the 25 percent of girls, there is cause for concern, she said.
Since heterosexuals outnumber the homosexual population about 44 to 1, as a group the incidence of homosexuals molesting children is up to 40 times greater than heterosexuals, she said.
"You're looking at a much higher rate of abuse," said Reisman, a former university research professor who recently completed a study titled, "Crafting Gay Children." "The Department of Justice just released data and the rate of abuse are off the charts."
BSA's policy has been the subject of constant attacks from gay activists, who have convinced a number of school boards to oust the Scouts from board property.
In a story that aired Apr. 1 on CBS, "60 Minutes" also questioned its validity. After California congressman Dana Rohrabacher called the prohibition common sense, reporter Lesley Stahl remarked that common sense turns out to be a myth.
According to the FBI and several clinical studies published in reputable journals, gay men aren't more likely to sexually abuse boys, she said.
"In fact, the largest database of child molesters in the country shows that those who molest boys are over three times more likely to be heterosexual in their adult relationships than homosexual," she said.
But Reisman points to figures from a 1991 population study by the U.S. Department of Commerce.
It showed that 8 million girls were abused by age 18 by heterosexual men, a ratio of 1 victim to 11 adult men. However, 6-8 million boys were abused by age 18 by 1-2 million adult homosexuals, a ratio of 3-5 victims for every gay adult.
Questioned about Reisman's claims, CBS stuck by its story.
Spokesman Kevin Tedesco said "60 Minutes" staffers spoke with leading sources of information on child molestation, including the FBI, American Psychological Association and several clinical researchers.
The database was assembled by psychologist Dr. Gene Able, director of the Behavioral Sciences Institute in Atlanta, he added.
However, Reisman also cites a past study by Able to bolster her contention that BSA has reason to fear admitting homosexuals to the scoutmaster ranks. It found that 150 boys are abused by one male homosexual offender, compared to 19.8 girls by heterosexual offenders.
In a study published in 1987 in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Able said homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence five times greater than the molestation of girls. (Calls to Able seeking further comment were not returned.)
"We looked at the leading gay travel guide," Reisman said of her research. "Forty-seven percent of the 139 nations they talked about identified places to find boys. The average heterosexual travel guide is not concerned with finding children."
There's this thing called correlation and it's really just a value for a coefficient that indicates some sort of relation between ................Well, sure, in your hypothetical, that is correct.Well, they can say that but you don't get it.
Say you have 10 kids molested and five of the kids were molested by gay men and five of the kids were molested by heteros.
But since gay men are only 2% of the population as compared to 98% heteros, what PERCENTAGE of gay men in the population are molesting kids as compared to heteros!
THAT'S what you are trying hard to ignore lest you be called, "homophobic!"
And, I don't give a flying fuck if I'm called homophobic or not. I love gay men, but my experience with lezzies here, in the past, and two currently in RL give me an experience of nothing but bitter women who have serious issues. Homophobia means fear, which is inaccurate for me - I just haven't had found any reason to respect any lesbian yet.
Well that's the point thought. If YOUR study finds children are just as likely to be molested by homos as heteros that still means AS A PERCENTAGE more homos are molesting children than heteros.
It's just unavoidable conclusion. Because even though there is an equal amount of children being molested THERE AREN'T AN EQUAL AMOUNT OF HETERO MEN AND GAY MEN!
There just aren't. Thus, there have to be FAR MORE homosexual men molesting children than hetero, no matter how you slice it.
And history proves the "normal" homosexual relationship was an older man and a younger boy. That's enshrined in history, poetry, in Ancient Greece, you name it.
And BTW, lesbianism too! Wasn't just the gay men preying on "youths" the lesbians did too.
I will also repeat: you are a bigoted twat. You don't know anything you weren't told about in Sunday School or on Fox News.
Want to know why gay people are trying to get into the Bot Scout troupes as leaders? So they can help with their kids, Magic Pussy. That's right, we let the gays adopt now! And some even make babies with surrogates and *gasp* provide them loving homes.
It's idiots like you that history will judge harshest. And you deserve it, Magic Pussy.
Really?
Records Show Boy Scouts Failed to Report Abuser | Fox News
I see no record of him having children has he moves between CA and Canada.
Homosexuals more likely to molest kids, study reports
By Ken Walker
May 30, 2001
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (BP)--A social researcher who has studied sexual behavior for 24 years believes the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) has sound reasons for maintaining its prohibition against gay scoutmasters.
A homosexual cannot automatically be considered a child molester, said Judith Reisman, president of the Institute for Media Education in suburban Louisville, Ky.
But with 17-24 percent of boys being abused by age 18, nearly as many as the 25 percent of girls, there is cause for concern, she said.
Since heterosexuals outnumber the homosexual population about 44 to 1, as a group the incidence of homosexuals molesting children is up to 40 times greater than heterosexuals, she said.
"You're looking at a much higher rate of abuse," said Reisman, a former university research professor who recently completed a study titled, "Crafting Gay Children." "The Department of Justice just released data and the rate of abuse are off the charts."
BSA's policy has been the subject of constant attacks from gay activists, who have convinced a number of school boards to oust the Scouts from board property.
In a story that aired Apr. 1 on CBS, "60 Minutes" also questioned its validity. After California congressman Dana Rohrabacher called the prohibition common sense, reporter Lesley Stahl remarked that common sense turns out to be a myth.
According to the FBI and several clinical studies published in reputable journals, gay men aren't more likely to sexually abuse boys, she said.
"In fact, the largest database of child molesters in the country shows that those who molest boys are over three times more likely to be heterosexual in their adult relationships than homosexual," she said.
But Reisman points to figures from a 1991 population study by the U.S. Department of Commerce.
It showed that 8 million girls were abused by age 18 by heterosexual men, a ratio of 1 victim to 11 adult men. However, 6-8 million boys were abused by age 18 by 1-2 million adult homosexuals, a ratio of 3-5 victims for every gay adult.
Questioned about Reisman's claims, CBS stuck by its story.
Spokesman Kevin Tedesco said "60 Minutes" staffers spoke with leading sources of information on child molestation, including the FBI, American Psychological Association and several clinical researchers.
The database was assembled by psychologist Dr. Gene Able, director of the Behavioral Sciences Institute in Atlanta, he added.
However, Reisman also cites a past study by Able to bolster her contention that BSA has reason to fear admitting homosexuals to the scoutmaster ranks. It found that 150 boys are abused by one male homosexual offender, compared to 19.8 girls by heterosexual offenders.
In a study published in 1987 in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Able said homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence five times greater than the molestation of girls. (Calls to Able seeking further comment were not returned.)
"We looked at the leading gay travel guide," Reisman said of her research. "Forty-seven percent of the 139 nations they talked about identified places to find boys. The average heterosexual travel guide is not concerned with finding children."
Homosexuals more likely to molest kids, study reports - (BP)
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logic impaired
More like: Human decency impaired.
ironic asshat is ironic
