Nominating Donald John Trump, Sr., For A Profile in Courage Award

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    I watched it all. Your spin on what Trump proposes is akin to the liberal lie that Republicans want to throw Granny off a cliff. You posted untrue, deliberately deceptive descriptions of what Trump is standing for.
    • give in to fear
    Responding to a valid existential sworn threat is not giving in to fear.
    • turn our backs on freedom
    Promoting the continued existence of this country is anything but a disowning of freedom. Opposing the influx of Muslim hordes with intent to live under Sharia Law instead of our Constitution is certainly no turning from freedom.
    • give in to alarm
    Complacency kills. We're living under the control of a President that is complacent about our security...especially in regard to the Muslim attachment to terrorism around the world. He knows full well that a theocracy should not be confused with religion. The alarming thing here is Obama, the Muslim-loving demagogue and his placating of the theocracy that has sworn to take over the world.
    • turn away from what is good in us
    The best thing in us is diversity of religion and tolerance of religions...within the limits of a peaceful society. Rather than turn from this, Trump is fighting for it. Fighting the THEOCRACY THAT IS INVADING AMERICA UNDER THE GUISE OF RELIGION.
    • shred the US Constitution
    The ignoring of our Constitution and its separation of powers by Obama and his cronies, including Trump's likely opponent in 2016 has set the bar exponentially high. Shredding is rather harsh for what Trump is proposing.
     
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    The first of America's Immigrants left England for FREEDOM FROM RELIGION. Our people fought and died to keep it....wrote the preservation of it into our Constitution. We should welcome today any immigrants fleeing forced religion.

    The immigrants from Syria are fleeing a forced THEOCRACY that enforces laws, punishments and discrimination that conflict with our Constitution. Our laws applying to religion should NOT APPLY TO THEOCRACY.
     
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    And I agree with this poster, and yes I watched the debates.

    I am no Trump fan, but I notice your attempt to "suggest" what Trump will do, and say nothing about what Obama DID do to shred the constitution. Someone who fears these type of actions, would have long ago been complaining about constitutional transgressions.

    I can't prove it conclusively, but I believe sir, you are a left wing phony baloney, or a right wing establishment crony (which is just as bad) trying to find a path to get Washington centric nominees for both parties in the general.
     
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    It's FREEDOM OF RELIGION.
     
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    Not entirely. It was for freedom to practice their own religion rather than be forced to worship with the Church of England...i.e. The King's Church. Freedom from forced religion. England is not a theocracy, but does have an official church. We went them a step further and did away with the state church.
     
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    Your sig describes Duh Donuld and his fans exactly.
     
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    "...as Trump started using his over-sized soap box to call everyone in sight stupid or ugly, and to attack immigrants, the perception that he was a man who speaks truth to power started to solidify in the minds of a healthy minority of Republican and Republican leaning independent voters."​

    The op-ed focused on a subject. That subject was Donald Trump. Specifically, Trump's angry message wrapped up in fear. The op-ed was posted before the debate. The debate transcript shows the anger and fear "Our country is out of control. People are pouring across the southern border. I will build a wall. It will be a great wall." - 5th Republican debate transcript, annotated: Who said what and what it meant

    China built a wall. China was afraid of the outside world. In modern times, East Germany, Northern Ireland, and Israel built walls. They were built out of anger and fear.

     
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    You are merely spinning the presentation from Trump in the debate to bolster your errant prediction of his performance. You characterize his truthfulness, forcefulness and bravado as fear and anger. You seem to equate construction of defensive barriers as being driven by fear rather than caution. You seem to support political correctness and open borders. In other words, you seem to support the transition of the earth into one big nation, ruled by God knows who.

    Political correctness, diplomacy, negotiation and laws against the possession of weapons will individually and collectively do NOTHING to defeat ISIS. ISIS is an enemy like no other we have faced in the history of this nation. Conventional methods of battle and war will not work. Allowing illegal entry and unfettered travel within the US is akin to inviting an axe murderer to live in the bedroom next to your children.

    This nation has forever been the melting pot for immigrants from all over the world. It should remain so. Freedom of (and from) religion should be maintained. It cannot remain so if Sharia Law replaces our current code. ISIS represents a theocracy bent on total control of all peoples by intimidation. Instead of passing laws to protect Muslims from criticism, we should be passing laws to prevent radical Muslims from preaching Jihad from the pulpits in this country. Then we should monitor all Mosques and deport or incarcerate Imams that continue the hatred...maybe fine them a million dollars a pop too.

    I have said for years that we need to close the border first, then figure out what to do with the illegal aliens that are already here. We need the wall on the southern border to do this.

    China's wall works. Israel's wall works. Each defines a border separating one country from another. Your opinion regarding their reasons for building walls is pure conjecture. For an aspiring op-ed writer, you don't read much history.

    Great Wall of China - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com
     
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    "You seem to support political correctness and open borders. In other words, you seem to support the transition of the earth into one big nation, ruled by God knows who...Allowing illegal entry and unfettered travel within the US..." - The mere spinning of straw man arguments with caricatures.

    Thank you again for posting replies Asaratis. Maybe some day, you too will become an op-ed writer. And on that day you can wow people with your knowledge of history. I look forward to that day.

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