I had such a clever thread thought out where are started off by flaming who I consider liberal greens but after posting in another thread I decided to change my intro. I am just such a nice guy but actually its my intelligence that made the difference. This is such a serious subject it needs a serious discussion. This is more than Bush vs Obama, Republican vs Democrat, Conservative vs Liberal. This is about our future, its about being enslaved to corporations. Do not confuse capitalism with corporations. Capitalism is what has given us all that is good, everything we live and breath came from the good of capitalism. All that is bad comes from individuals, individuals that rise to the power within corporations. Individuals that are born into power and money. Individuals that rise to power in politics. That is why we have laws and the constitution, the founders new how easily a little power corrupts the individual. Its amazing to see the intelligence of our founders. These were men of great education that spent thier lives studying all that was written by many great men throughout the centuries. The times have changed but not the nature of men. That is why its so important we understand the two documents that establish or laws, The Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. The Green revolution has nothing to do with cleaning the earth and making it better, its about power. Anyone who thinks green is good does not understand, has not thought through exactly what is happening to go green. I started this debate in another thread but I figure as long as I am contributing more facts than the author of that paticular thread I mine as well have my own. Green energy wastes more energy than it produces. Green energy creates more pollution. Green energy enslaves a nation to a few people in power. Green energy will make the rich, richer, the middle class poorer, and the poor a permanent sub-class.