No Jobs created since Obama took office, LINK

From BLS
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,335 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,558 694 6,016 11,847

2010...... 129,874 107,384 17,751 705 5,518 11,528
2011(p)... 131,358 109,253 18,021 784 5,504 11,733


5 million fewer people working
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
 
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When Obama took office, the country was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000 a month.

Bush's final budget was in effect until October of that year when unemployment ballooned to 10.1%.

From 2001 to 2008, the country lost millions of jobs.

Thanks for giving me a chance to point that out.
 
When Obama took office, the country was losing jobs at the rate of 750,000 a month.

Bush's final budget was in effect until October of that year when unemployment ballooned to 10.1%.

From 2001 to 2008, the country lost millions of jobs.

Thanks for giving me a chance to point that out.

rdean this is why BHO is the preaident Libs vote on everything but the truth
the link is above
2001....... 107,952 25,983 3,629 7,808 16,476 15,645 12,036 5,258 21,118
2002....... 107,784 25,497 3,395 7,847 15,976 16,199 11,986 5,372 21,513
2003....... 108,183 25,287 3,188 7,977 15,987 16,588 12,173 5,401 21,583
2004....... 109,553 25,533 3,118 8,031 16,394 16,953 12,493 5,409 21,621
2005....... 111,513 25,959 3,061 8,153 16,954 17,372 12,816 5,395 21,804
2006....... 113,556 26,276 3,038 8,328 17,566 17,826 13,110 5,438 21,974
2007....... 115,366 26,630 3,032 8,301 17,942 18,322 13,427 5,494 22,218
2008....... 115,456 26,293 2,984 8,145 17,735 18,838 13,436 5,515 22,509
Thats 7 million jobs from 01 to 08 created

as far as the 09 budget, it was signed by BHO march of 2009, GWB refused to sign it
National Coalition for Homeless Veterans - President Obama Signs FY 2009 Budget into Law

and what does that have to do with jobs?
I Thought the failed stimulus was the solution?
 
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There are many people who believe that Obama was handed a big, steaming pile of crap, an economic disaster of historic proportions, a staggering and massively complicated spider's web of financial fecal matter that this country has never seen.

Yes, Republicans, I know, it's not true, we're all supposed to think it was all just a little blip from which we should recovered immediately, back on our merry, prosperous, "exceptional" way. We should have come roaring back after that little down dip like a horny lion. That recession was nothing special, just another bump in the road. I get it, I get it.

But for those who think that's not true, the only thing that will matter is the trajectory of the economy on Election Day. If the trajectory is up, Obama's back in. If it's down, it'll be Romney. If it's flat, it'll be a toss-up. A decent Republican candidate might well win regardless, but it is what it is. These numbers are irrelevant.

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There are many people who believe that Obama was handed a big, steaming pile of crap, an economic disaster of historic proportions, a staggering and massively complicated spider's web of financial fecal matter that this country has never seen.

Yes, Republicans, I know, it's not true, it was all just a little blip from which we should recovered immediately, back on our merry, prosperous, "exceptional" way. We should have come roaring back after that little down dip like a horny lion. That recession was nothing special, just another bump in the road. I get it, I get it.

But for those who think that's not true, the only thing that will matter is the trajectory of the economy on Election Day. If the trajectory is up, Obama's back in. If it's down, it'll be Romney. If it's flat, it'll be a toss-up. A decent Republican candidate might well win regardless, but it is what it is. These numbers are irrelevant.

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Mac the wheels had come off, no doubt about that

GWB was handed a recession and 9-11 in 8 months in 2001, not the same, not like it wasin 08, but it was notgoing great either, 9-11 was a huge event

BHO spent his first 2 years cramming down the health care reform law down our throats and lying about GM paying us back (they still owe us 50 billion, +-) and even with there stock there still 15-25 billion short

And what exactly did going from a deficit of 163 billion in 2007 to where we are today do for us? (budget short-fall 2007, from 2006 congress) what is it 1.4 trillion a year now?

These are not partisan quotations, it is accurate information that if people use to decide our next president (which I think enough will) its a no brainer

By the way out health care system is fine, the way we insure it is the issue that needs attention, Obama's way as best I can see was not the way we should have "attacked" it
 
If we were still counting unemployment the same way we were when Bush left office the rate would be 11% today. As it is Gallup says it's 9.1% using the same numbers that the BLS uses. The Obama Administration uses "Seasonal Adjusted" to lower the rate to 8.3%.
 
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If we were still counting unemployment the same way were when Bush left office the rate would be 11% today. As it is Gallup says it's 9.1% using the same numbers that the BLS uses. The Obama Administration uses "Seasonal Adjusted" to lower the rate to 8.3%.

The level of being dis honest scares the most with BHO. His claims on GM make me sick. My brother stopped buying GM products, never would have dreamed it

Your spot on
 
LOL. You whining assholes. The President could pay off the deficit, find a way to give us all a million dollar refund, and have full employment, and you would still be whining. You guys are not only liars, you are total fruitcakes.

Employment is improving, the market is going up, and housing will be coming back. And you will be damning the whole thing, hoping for more misery for your fellow Americans.
 
And what exactly did going from a deficit of 163 billion in 2007 to where we are today do for us? (budget short-fall 2007, from 2006 congress) what is it 1.4 trillion a year now?


That's a very reasonable question, and if anyone says that they can answer it with certainty and clarity, they're just not being intellectually honest.

I had to spend about a year trying to explain this to my advisory clients, and it wasn't easy. The administration threw massive amounts of borrowed cash at the problem, trying to fix one problem by creating another. I understand their point, but I don't know if it was the best way to go. And, I would submit, neither does anyone else.

When you pump that much cash (borrowed, I know, believe me I know) into the system it is going to buoy the system and create a foundation. And I believe that is precisely what happened. But the system was, IS, so damaged that only so much could be done. We now seem to be (slowly) coming out of it, but that growth will surely be retarded by our debt. So the question is, on balance, was it worth it? No one can say they know, not yet.

But that wasn't the point. The point is that the mess Obama was handed is literally unprecedented, and I don't blame someone for not pretending this situation is all his fault.

Trajectory, it'll all be about trajectory.

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LOL. You whining assholes. The President could pay off the deficit, find a way to give us all a million dollar refund, and have full employment, and you would still be whining. You guys are not only liars, you are total fruitcakes.

Employment is improving, the market is going up, and housing will be coming back. And you will be damning the whole thing, hoping for more misery for your fellow Americans.

I won't whine if he does those things. He just hasn't. And unemployment just went back over 9 percent again. He promised it would be below eight for his entire presidency.
 
If there's one thing the rw's are good at its, Mental Masturbation.

Don't show them facts, they want the GObP/Repub lies.
 
And what exactly did going from a deficit of 163 billion in 2007 to where we are today do for us? (budget short-fall 2007, from 2006 congress) what is it 1.4 trillion a year now?


That's a very reasonable question, and if anyone says that they can answer it with certainty and clarity, they're just not being intellectually honest.

I had to spend about a year trying to explain this to my advisory clients, and it wasn't easy. The administration threw massive amounts of borrowed cash at the problem, trying to fix one problem by creating another. I understand their point, but I don't know if it was the best way to go. And, I would submit, neither does anyone else.

When you pump that much cash (borrowed, I know, believe me I know) into the system it is going to buoy the system and create a foundation. And I believe that is precisely what happened. But the system was, IS, so damaged that only so much could be done. We now seem to be (slowly) coming out of it, but that growth will surely be retarded by our debt. So the question is, on balance, was it worth it? No one can say they know, not yet.

But that wasn't the point. The point is that the mess Obama was handed is literally unprecedented, and I don't blame someone for not pretending this situation is all his fault.

Trajectory, it'll all be about trajectory.

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The one thing I have to di agree with is the word stimulus
Bush did this by giving the tax payer money back, why? thats were it comes from to start with and that is who will have to pay it back

Not BHO, that to me is all that should ever be said, Obama used his stimulus as a slush fund, Bush did it to help the very people who needed it
 
LOL. You whining assholes. The President could pay off the deficit, find a way to give us all a million dollar refund, and have full employment, and you would still be whining. You guys are not only liars, you are total fruitcakes.

Employment is improving, the market is going up, and housing will be coming back. And you will be damning the whole thing, hoping for more misery for your fellow Americans.

Liberals, name calling does what for you people?

We have fewer jobs today than we did in 2008
liar?
fruticakes?
what does that have to do with a honest debate about the events?

And who got refund from Obamas stimulus?
He did
Misery? the misery came from greed, not Obama nor Bush, but what Obama has done has piled up a bunch debt that has done no-one any good except the Democratic re-election fund
providing tax payers welath to unions that have failed makes sure that in that cycle a % of it will come back to the same

BTW, chill out with the name calling, it shows only who and what your about, makes you look foolish and no-one will ever take you serious
 

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