New Study:Vaccinated children have 2 to 5 times more diseases and disorders than unvaccinated kids.

[Boatswain2PA]

I'll let history be the judge. You all will die from fake immune systems and those of us with strong ones will survive. If we listened to you morons NONE of us would be here! All our ancestors should have died from diseases...it must be a miracle.

Wow. I call people like this "Job Security".

 

[Syriusly]

Oh boy you managed to attack a doctor because of her profession...real mature pal...

She isn't a real doctor, more of a Doctor Pepper type of Doctor. Like Obama is a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. The author is not a physician, she is a "homeopath", which most physicians think are quacks.



Why your child should get childhood immunizations:

I work in emergency medicine. I see lots of sick kids every shift. ALMOST EVERY TIME the sick kid just has a viral syndrome and simply needs alternating doses of acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibuprofen (motrin), more fluids, and close observation by mom and dad. If it's not a viral syndrome, then it is probably strep throat or an ear infection and they get amoxicillin (although studies show that this is unnecessary, the kiddo will get better without the antibiotic). Rarely is it something more serious like appendicitis, but I always have to be on guard to find the more serious thing.

And then there are the un-vaccinated kids. These kids scare the HELL out of me because I have rarely, if ever, seen some of the diseases THAT THIS KID SHOULDN'T EVEN BE AT RISK FOR GETTING. I've never seen Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio, or even mumps. Now this mild rash on the kids leg, which is almost assuredly just a viral xanthem (a viral "cold" in the skin) just might be a meningiococcal rash which means this kid could be dead in a few hours if I don't diagnose it immediately and start intravenous antibiotics. That cough that the 4 month old has had for 3 days might not be his first case of viral bronchitis, it may be pertussis that can have him cough so much he gets hypoxic brain damage.

Here is a list of childhood vaccines that are recommended by the Centers for Disease Control. Next to the vaccine is the recommended age for first vaccination (most require multiple innoculations for best immunity). Then I describe to you what this MOSTLY PREVENTABLE disease can do to your child or to others.

meningiococcal (6 weeks): This prevents a bacteria that wants to cause two different, but related diseases in your child: Meningococcemia and Meningitis.
Meningococcemia is a bacterial infection of the blood. It often starts with flu-like symptoms. A fever, nausea, body aches, headache, and tiredness. Sounds like the viral syndrome that every healthy kid gets several times a year. That rash on your child's leg may look just like a viral xanthem when you bring them to see me in the ER. We give him acetaminophen in the ER, tell you to alternate with ibuprofen, push fluids, watch him closely, and bring him back if anything gets worse. The acetaminophen brings the fever down and you put him to bed. The next morning you go to wake him up and notice he is burning hot, his legs are all splotchy, and he doesn't want to wake up. You rush him back to my ER where he is diagnosed with Meningiococcmia, started on intravenous antibiotics, put on a ventilator, and admitted to the ICU. If we are lucky your child will survive, although he will likely lose his legs.
Meningitis is an infection or inflammation of the lining around the brain and spinal cord. It can be caused by many different viruses or bacteria. Bacterial meningitis commonly has a much worse outcome in terms of death and long term disability than viral meningitis. Until the development of meningococcal and pneumococcal vaccines the most common cause of meningitis were these bacteria. Meningitis can also start with flu-like symptoms of fever, nausea, body and headaches, and fatigue....looks very much like that viral syndrome that your child gets several times a year. Bacterial meningitis however, can quickly move from these benign symptoms to permanent brain damage or death in a matter of hours.
Here are some links to videos of Meningococcemia and Bacterial Meningitis:
(in spanish, but pictures in the first two minutes tell the story)

(the caption states this was viral meningitis, but I doubt it was due to the need for amputation).

pneumococcus (2 month) covers 13 of the worst serotypes of Streptococcus pneumoniae which are the second leading cause (next to Meningococcal) of bacterial meningitis. Strep pneumoniae is also a primary cause of ear infections and systemic blood infections. Some statistics say that, in developing countries, pneumococcus kills more kids than malaria, AIDS, and measles combined. Of course, as it's name implies, it also is a primary cause of pneumonia.
Here's what can happen to your child:


Pertussis (2 months) Your kiddo comes home from school with a mild fever and a cough. This is going to happen a few times every school year, and you're sure he will get better. If he's vaccinated, he probably will. If he's unvaccinated, you need to worry, because I certainly will in the emergency department because this may be whooping cough. No big deal if you bring him to see me because if I suspect it then I can treat it easily with an antibiotic. But the much bigger deal is your younger children, or your younger nieces and nephews who are not old enough to be immunized. Your unvaccinated child may have been carrying, and spreading, pertussis for as long as a MONTH before he started coughing. Now all of those unimmunized babies your child has been around may wind up in the pediatric ICU looking like this baby.



Haemophilus Influenza B (2 months). Or that mild fever and cough could progress into something else, like epiglotittis. This is an inflammation of the epiglottis, which is the flap that covers your windpipe when you swallow so that food doesn't go down it. What happens when your epiglottis gets inflammed? It covers that windpipe and you can't breathe. This can happen very quickly and is an absolute emergency.

Epiglottitis - YouTube

What happens when your child can't breathe due to epiglottitis closing off his windpipe and you bring him to my ER? I have to cut a hole in his throat so he breathe through it. Here is a video of that procedure, although this is done in the operating room. If I have to do it in the emergency department it is a lot faster, messier, and bloodier.

Imagine watching me do this to your child in the emergency room: TRACHEOSTOMY - YouTube

By the way, I've never done one of these in the ER. If you don't get your child immunized with the HIB vaccine, your child may be the first one I do.

Diphtheria (2 months): Fever, chills, fatigue, cough, headache....sounds like the viral syndrome again doesn't it? And it probably is, but if your child isn't vaccinated it could be diphtheria. Your child's lymph nodes in their neck may swell up so much that I have to put a tube down their throat so they can breathe. If I can't get the tube down their throat, I may have to again cut a hole in your child's throat so they can breathe. Diphtheria is fatal in upwards of 10% of cases, and possibly as high as 20% in the very young or elderly.

Polio (2 months): The poliovirus wants to attack the nerves that control your child's muscles. Polio is almost wiped out from the planet due to the vaccines...but we could have said the same thing about Diphtheria 15 years ago before it's resurgence. I've never seen a single case of it, so I'm sure I will miss it the first time I do see it.

Hep B (birth) - Very infective. Causes hepatitis which can lead to permanent liver damage, and sometimes death.

Hep A (1 year) - Similar to Hep B.

Rotavirus (2 month) - Very infective horrible diarrhea that can lead to severe dehydration and hospitalization. In America this has a very low death rate, but very uncomfortable for the child and parents.

tetanus (2 month) - If your child gets tetanus their muscles can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. Yes, your child can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. We can prevent that with tetanus vaccine.

Measles (1 year) - Fever, fatigue, body aches, and a rash everywhere. While not typically a fatal disease, it often progresses to a serious pneumonia that can require hospitalization.

mumps(1 year) Fever, fatigue for few days. Swelling in the throat. Usually goes away without any big deal. Unless you are a male who is past puberty, then you are at risk for inflammation of your testicles which can lead to infertility. Women too can have inflammation of her ovaries and infertility issues. And then there is the nearly 30% chance of spontaneous miscarriage if a pregnant woman contracts mumps.

rubella(1 year) Not commonly a significant disease for your child. But if your child gives it to a pregnant woman then the pre-born child is at high risk for congenital rubella syndrome (CRS). This results in a miscarriage approximately 20% of the time. The surviving babies have significant risk of being born with a wide range of deformities including mental retardation, deafness, cataracts, retina problems, congenital heart problems, small head, etc etc, etc.
This is what rubella vaccine prevents: Congenital Rubella Syndrome - Ian s story - YouTube

Varicella(1 year) Yeah, I know, it's only chickenpox. You probably had chickenpox when you were a child and you don't think it's a big deal. It usually isn't. It can RARELY cause swelling around the brain, but that's very rare. However the bigger consequence of chickenpox happens 30-60 years AFTER they go away because, you see, the virus never really goes away. It just hides in a nerve root for decades until it comes back as shingles which is an incredibly painful rash. I've had to put people into the hospital before just to control their pain.

HPV (11 year) prevents most of the papilloma viruses that cause the most aggressive forms of cervical cancer. While cervical cancer can be detected early by annual pap smears, these pap smears on detect the cancer, they don't prevent or treat it. Furthermore many young woman do not get the pap smears, and don't go to the doctor until they have symptoms. But in that respect cervical cancer is like colon cancer; once you have symptoms, you probably have very advanced disease.

Now you know the risks of NOT getting the vaccines. While there is some small risk from getting vaccines (injection site discomfort, guillain-barre, anaphylaxis, etc), these risk are miniscule compared to the risks of preventable diseases

thanks for that- Odium and the rest of the anti-vaccine idiots will ignore it.

They will leave their kids unvaccinated, and be shocked when their kids end up infecting an infant with measles and the infant dies- and be quick to blame it on immigrants, rather than their own ignorance.

Anyone old enough to remember polio victims should denounce these idiots for what they are- dangerous idiots.

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

 

[martybegan]

Oh boy you managed to attack a doctor because of her profession...real mature pal...

She isn't a real doctor, more of a Doctor Pepper type of Doctor. Like Obama is a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. The author is not a physician, she is a "homeopath", which most physicians think are quacks.



Why your child should get childhood immunizations:

I work in emergency medicine. I see lots of sick kids every shift. ALMOST EVERY TIME the sick kid just has a viral syndrome and simply needs alternating doses of acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibuprofen (motrin), more fluids, and close observation by mom and dad. If it's not a viral syndrome, then it is probably strep throat or an ear infection and they get amoxicillin (although studies show that this is unnecessary, the kiddo will get better without the antibiotic). Rarely is it something more serious like appendicitis, but I always have to be on guard to find the more serious thing.

And then there are the un-vaccinated kids. These kids scare the HELL out of me because I have rarely, if ever, seen some of the diseases THAT THIS KID SHOULDN'T EVEN BE AT RISK FOR GETTING. I've never seen Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio, or even mumps. Now this mild rash on the kids leg, which is almost assuredly just a viral xanthem (a viral "cold" in the skin) just might be a meningiococcal rash which means this kid could be dead in a few hours if I don't diagnose it immediately and start intravenous antibiotics. That cough that the 4 month old has had for 3 days might not be his first case of viral bronchitis, it may be pertussis that can have him cough so much he gets hypoxic brain damage.

Here is a list of childhood vaccines that are recommended by the Centers for Disease Control. Next to the vaccine is the recommended age for first vaccination (most require multiple innoculations for best immunity). Then I describe to you what this MOSTLY PREVENTABLE disease can do to your child or to others.

meningiococcal (6 weeks): This prevents a bacteria that wants to cause two different, but related diseases in your child: Meningococcemia and Meningitis.
Meningococcemia is a bacterial infection of the blood. It often starts with flu-like symptoms. A fever, nausea, body aches, headache, and tiredness. Sounds like the viral syndrome that every healthy kid gets several times a year. That rash on your child's leg may look just like a viral xanthem when you bring them to see me in the ER. We give him acetaminophen in the ER, tell you to alternate with ibuprofen, push fluids, watch him closely, and bring him back if anything gets worse. The acetaminophen brings the fever down and you put him to bed. The next morning you go to wake him up and notice he is burning hot, his legs are all splotchy, and he doesn't want to wake up. You rush him back to my ER where he is diagnosed with Meningiococcmia, started on intravenous antibiotics, put on a ventilator, and admitted to the ICU. If we are lucky your child will survive, although he will likely lose his legs.
Meningitis is an infection or inflammation of the lining around the brain and spinal cord. It can be caused by many different viruses or bacteria. Bacterial meningitis commonly has a much worse outcome in terms of death and long term disability than viral meningitis. Until the development of meningococcal and pneumococcal vaccines the most common cause of meningitis were these bacteria. Meningitis can also start with flu-like symptoms of fever, nausea, body and headaches, and fatigue....looks very much like that viral syndrome that your child gets several times a year. Bacterial meningitis however, can quickly move from these benign symptoms to permanent brain damage or death in a matter of hours.
Here are some links to videos of Meningococcemia and Bacterial Meningitis:
(in spanish, but pictures in the first two minutes tell the story)

(the caption states this was viral meningitis, but I doubt it was due to the need for amputation).

pneumococcus (2 month) covers 13 of the worst serotypes of Streptococcus pneumoniae which are the second leading cause (next to Meningococcal) of bacterial meningitis. Strep pneumoniae is also a primary cause of ear infections and systemic blood infections. Some statistics say that, in developing countries, pneumococcus kills more kids than malaria, AIDS, and measles combined. Of course, as it's name implies, it also is a primary cause of pneumonia.
Here's what can happen to your child:


Pertussis (2 months) Your kiddo comes home from school with a mild fever and a cough. This is going to happen a few times every school year, and you're sure he will get better. If he's vaccinated, he probably will. If he's unvaccinated, you need to worry, because I certainly will in the emergency department because this may be whooping cough. No big deal if you bring him to see me because if I suspect it then I can treat it easily with an antibiotic. But the much bigger deal is your younger children, or your younger nieces and nephews who are not old enough to be immunized. Your unvaccinated child may have been carrying, and spreading, pertussis for as long as a MONTH before he started coughing. Now all of those unimmunized babies your child has been around may wind up in the pediatric ICU looking like this baby.



Haemophilus Influenza B (2 months). Or that mild fever and cough could progress into something else, like epiglotittis. This is an inflammation of the epiglottis, which is the flap that covers your windpipe when you swallow so that food doesn't go down it. What happens when your epiglottis gets inflammed? It covers that windpipe and you can't breathe. This can happen very quickly and is an absolute emergency.

Epiglottitis - YouTube

What happens when your child can't breathe due to epiglottitis closing off his windpipe and you bring him to my ER? I have to cut a hole in his throat so he breathe through it. Here is a video of that procedure, although this is done in the operating room. If I have to do it in the emergency department it is a lot faster, messier, and bloodier.

Imagine watching me do this to your child in the emergency room: TRACHEOSTOMY - YouTube

By the way, I've never done one of these in the ER. If you don't get your child immunized with the HIB vaccine, your child may be the first one I do.

Diphtheria (2 months): Fever, chills, fatigue, cough, headache....sounds like the viral syndrome again doesn't it? And it probably is, but if your child isn't vaccinated it could be diphtheria. Your child's lymph nodes in their neck may swell up so much that I have to put a tube down their throat so they can breathe. If I can't get the tube down their throat, I may have to again cut a hole in your child's throat so they can breathe. Diphtheria is fatal in upwards of 10% of cases, and possibly as high as 20% in the very young or elderly.

Polio (2 months): The poliovirus wants to attack the nerves that control your child's muscles. Polio is almost wiped out from the planet due to the vaccines...but we could have said the same thing about Diphtheria 15 years ago before it's resurgence. I've never seen a single case of it, so I'm sure I will miss it the first time I do see it.

Hep B (birth) - Very infective. Causes hepatitis which can lead to permanent liver damage, and sometimes death.

Hep A (1 year) - Similar to Hep B.

Rotavirus (2 month) - Very infective horrible diarrhea that can lead to severe dehydration and hospitalization. In America this has a very low death rate, but very uncomfortable for the child and parents.

tetanus (2 month) - If your child gets tetanus their muscles can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. Yes, your child can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. We can prevent that with tetanus vaccine.

Measles (1 year) - Fever, fatigue, body aches, and a rash everywhere. While not typically a fatal disease, it often progresses to a serious pneumonia that can require hospitalization.

mumps(1 year) Fever, fatigue for few days. Swelling in the throat. Usually goes away without any big deal. Unless you are a male who is past puberty, then you are at risk for inflammation of your testicles which can lead to infertility. Women too can have inflammation of her ovaries and infertility issues. And then there is the nearly 30% chance of spontaneous miscarriage if a pregnant woman contracts mumps.

rubella(1 year) Not commonly a significant disease for your child. But if your child gives it to a pregnant woman then the pre-born child is at high risk for congenital rubella syndrome (CRS). This results in a miscarriage approximately 20% of the time. The surviving babies have significant risk of being born with a wide range of deformities including mental retardation, deafness, cataracts, retina problems, congenital heart problems, small head, etc etc, etc.
This is what rubella vaccine prevents: Congenital Rubella Syndrome - Ian s story - YouTube

Varicella(1 year) Yeah, I know, it's only chickenpox. You probably had chickenpox when you were a child and you don't think it's a big deal. It usually isn't. It can RARELY cause swelling around the brain, but that's very rare. However the bigger consequence of chickenpox happens 30-60 years AFTER they go away because, you see, the virus never really goes away. It just hides in a nerve root for decades until it comes back as shingles which is an incredibly painful rash. I've had to put people into the hospital before just to control their pain.

HPV (11 year) prevents most of the papilloma viruses that cause the most aggressive forms of cervical cancer. While cervical cancer can be detected early by annual pap smears, these pap smears on detect the cancer, they don't prevent or treat it. Furthermore many young woman do not get the pap smears, and don't go to the doctor until they have symptoms. But in that respect cervical cancer is like colon cancer; once you have symptoms, you probably have very advanced disease.

Now you know the risks of NOT getting the vaccines. While there is some small risk from getting vaccines (injection site discomfort, guillain-barre, anaphylaxis, etc), these risk are miniscule compared to the risks of preventable diseases

thanks for that- Odium and the rest of the anti-vaccine idiots will ignore it.

They will leave their kids unvaccinated, and be shocked when their kids end up infecting an infant with measles and the infant dies- and be quick to blame it on immigrants, rather than their own ignorance.

Anyone old enough to remember polio victims should denounce these idiots for what they are- dangerous idiots.

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

 

[Syriusly]

Oh boy you managed to attack a doctor because of her profession...real mature pal...

She isn't a real doctor, more of a Doctor Pepper type of Doctor. Like Obama is a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. The author is not a physician, she is a "homeopath", which most physicians think are quacks.



Why your child should get childhood immunizations:

I work in emergency medicine. I see lots of sick kids every shift. ALMOST EVERY TIME the sick kid just has a viral syndrome and simply needs alternating doses of acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibuprofen (motrin), more fluids, and close observation by mom and dad. If it's not a viral syndrome, then it is probably strep throat or an ear infection and they get amoxicillin (although studies show that this is unnecessary, the kiddo will get better without the antibiotic). Rarely is it something more serious like appendicitis, but I always have to be on guard to find the more serious thing.

And then there are the un-vaccinated kids. These kids scare the HELL out of me because I have rarely, if ever, seen some of the diseases THAT THIS KID SHOULDN'T EVEN BE AT RISK FOR GETTING. I've never seen Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio, or even mumps. Now this mild rash on the kids leg, which is almost assuredly just a viral xanthem (a viral "cold" in the skin) just might be a meningiococcal rash which means this kid could be dead in a few hours if I don't diagnose it immediately and start intravenous antibiotics. That cough that the 4 month old has had for 3 days might not be his first case of viral bronchitis, it may be pertussis that can have him cough so much he gets hypoxic brain damage.

Here is a list of childhood vaccines that are recommended by the Centers for Disease Control. Next to the vaccine is the recommended age for first vaccination (most require multiple innoculations for best immunity). Then I describe to you what this MOSTLY PREVENTABLE disease can do to your child or to others.

meningiococcal (6 weeks): This prevents a bacteria that wants to cause two different, but related diseases in your child: Meningococcemia and Meningitis.
Meningococcemia is a bacterial infection of the blood. It often starts with flu-like symptoms. A fever, nausea, body aches, headache, and tiredness. Sounds like the viral syndrome that every healthy kid gets several times a year. That rash on your child's leg may look just like a viral xanthem when you bring them to see me in the ER. We give him acetaminophen in the ER, tell you to alternate with ibuprofen, push fluids, watch him closely, and bring him back if anything gets worse. The acetaminophen brings the fever down and you put him to bed. The next morning you go to wake him up and notice he is burning hot, his legs are all splotchy, and he doesn't want to wake up. You rush him back to my ER where he is diagnosed with Meningiococcmia, started on intravenous antibiotics, put on a ventilator, and admitted to the ICU. If we are lucky your child will survive, although he will likely lose his legs.
Meningitis is an infection or inflammation of the lining around the brain and spinal cord. It can be caused by many different viruses or bacteria. Bacterial meningitis commonly has a much worse outcome in terms of death and long term disability than viral meningitis. Until the development of meningococcal and pneumococcal vaccines the most common cause of meningitis were these bacteria. Meningitis can also start with flu-like symptoms of fever, nausea, body and headaches, and fatigue....looks very much like that viral syndrome that your child gets several times a year. Bacterial meningitis however, can quickly move from these benign symptoms to permanent brain damage or death in a matter of hours.
Here are some links to videos of Meningococcemia and Bacterial Meningitis:
(in spanish, but pictures in the first two minutes tell the story)

(the caption states this was viral meningitis, but I doubt it was due to the need for amputation).

pneumococcus (2 month) covers 13 of the worst serotypes of Streptococcus pneumoniae which are the second leading cause (next to Meningococcal) of bacterial meningitis. Strep pneumoniae is also a primary cause of ear infections and systemic blood infections. Some statistics say that, in developing countries, pneumococcus kills more kids than malaria, AIDS, and measles combined. Of course, as it's name implies, it also is a primary cause of pneumonia.
Here's what can happen to your child:


Pertussis (2 months) Your kiddo comes home from school with a mild fever and a cough. This is going to happen a few times every school year, and you're sure he will get better. If he's vaccinated, he probably will. If he's unvaccinated, you need to worry, because I certainly will in the emergency department because this may be whooping cough. No big deal if you bring him to see me because if I suspect it then I can treat it easily with an antibiotic. But the much bigger deal is your younger children, or your younger nieces and nephews who are not old enough to be immunized. Your unvaccinated child may have been carrying, and spreading, pertussis for as long as a MONTH before he started coughing. Now all of those unimmunized babies your child has been around may wind up in the pediatric ICU looking like this baby.



Haemophilus Influenza B (2 months). Or that mild fever and cough could progress into something else, like epiglotittis. This is an inflammation of the epiglottis, which is the flap that covers your windpipe when you swallow so that food doesn't go down it. What happens when your epiglottis gets inflammed? It covers that windpipe and you can't breathe. This can happen very quickly and is an absolute emergency.

Epiglottitis - YouTube

What happens when your child can't breathe due to epiglottitis closing off his windpipe and you bring him to my ER? I have to cut a hole in his throat so he breathe through it. Here is a video of that procedure, although this is done in the operating room. If I have to do it in the emergency department it is a lot faster, messier, and bloodier.

Imagine watching me do this to your child in the emergency room: TRACHEOSTOMY - YouTube

By the way, I've never done one of these in the ER. If you don't get your child immunized with the HIB vaccine, your child may be the first one I do.

Diphtheria (2 months): Fever, chills, fatigue, cough, headache....sounds like the viral syndrome again doesn't it? And it probably is, but if your child isn't vaccinated it could be diphtheria. Your child's lymph nodes in their neck may swell up so much that I have to put a tube down their throat so they can breathe. If I can't get the tube down their throat, I may have to again cut a hole in your child's throat so they can breathe. Diphtheria is fatal in upwards of 10% of cases, and possibly as high as 20% in the very young or elderly.

Polio (2 months): The poliovirus wants to attack the nerves that control your child's muscles. Polio is almost wiped out from the planet due to the vaccines...but we could have said the same thing about Diphtheria 15 years ago before it's resurgence. I've never seen a single case of it, so I'm sure I will miss it the first time I do see it.

Hep B (birth) - Very infective. Causes hepatitis which can lead to permanent liver damage, and sometimes death.

Hep A (1 year) - Similar to Hep B.

Rotavirus (2 month) - Very infective horrible diarrhea that can lead to severe dehydration and hospitalization. In America this has a very low death rate, but very uncomfortable for the child and parents.

tetanus (2 month) - If your child gets tetanus their muscles can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. Yes, your child can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. We can prevent that with tetanus vaccine.

Measles (1 year) - Fever, fatigue, body aches, and a rash everywhere. While not typically a fatal disease, it often progresses to a serious pneumonia that can require hospitalization.

mumps(1 year) Fever, fatigue for few days. Swelling in the throat. Usually goes away without any big deal. Unless you are a male who is past puberty, then you are at risk for inflammation of your testicles which can lead to infertility. Women too can have inflammation of her ovaries and infertility issues. And then there is the nearly 30% chance of spontaneous miscarriage if a pregnant woman contracts mumps.

rubella(1 year) Not commonly a significant disease for your child. But if your child gives it to a pregnant woman then the pre-born child is at high risk for congenital rubella syndrome (CRS). This results in a miscarriage approximately 20% of the time. The surviving babies have significant risk of being born with a wide range of deformities including mental retardation, deafness, cataracts, retina problems, congenital heart problems, small head, etc etc, etc.
This is what rubella vaccine prevents: Congenital Rubella Syndrome - Ian s story - YouTube

Varicella(1 year) Yeah, I know, it's only chickenpox. You probably had chickenpox when you were a child and you don't think it's a big deal. It usually isn't. It can RARELY cause swelling around the brain, but that's very rare. However the bigger consequence of chickenpox happens 30-60 years AFTER they go away because, you see, the virus never really goes away. It just hides in a nerve root for decades until it comes back as shingles which is an incredibly painful rash. I've had to put people into the hospital before just to control their pain.

HPV (11 year) prevents most of the papilloma viruses that cause the most aggressive forms of cervical cancer. While cervical cancer can be detected early by annual pap smears, these pap smears on detect the cancer, they don't prevent or treat it. Furthermore many young woman do not get the pap smears, and don't go to the doctor until they have symptoms. But in that respect cervical cancer is like colon cancer; once you have symptoms, you probably have very advanced disease.

Now you know the risks of NOT getting the vaccines. While there is some small risk from getting vaccines (injection site discomfort, guillain-barre, anaphylaxis, etc), these risk are miniscule compared to the risks of preventable diseases

thanks for that- Odium and the rest of the anti-vaccine idiots will ignore it.

They will leave their kids unvaccinated, and be shocked when their kids end up infecting an infant with measles and the infant dies- and be quick to blame it on immigrants, rather than their own ignorance.

Anyone old enough to remember polio victims should denounce these idiots for what they are- dangerous idiots.

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

Hell yes- how often do you and I agree on anything?

Odium is just as stupid as the assholes millionaires in Marin who give their kids a Porsche but not a vaccination.

I wouldn't mind quite as much if they were only endangering their own kids(which is bad enough) but they endanger every baby too young to be vaccinated and every child who has a compromised immune system and can't be vaccinated.

 

[martybegan]

She isn't a real doctor, more of a Doctor Pepper type of Doctor. Like Obama is a Doctorate of Jurisprudence. The author is not a physician, she is a "homeopath", which most physicians think are quacks.



Why your child should get childhood immunizations:

I work in emergency medicine. I see lots of sick kids every shift. ALMOST EVERY TIME the sick kid just has a viral syndrome and simply needs alternating doses of acetaminophen (tylenol) and ibuprofen (motrin), more fluids, and close observation by mom and dad. If it's not a viral syndrome, then it is probably strep throat or an ear infection and they get amoxicillin (although studies show that this is unnecessary, the kiddo will get better without the antibiotic). Rarely is it something more serious like appendicitis, but I always have to be on guard to find the more serious thing.

And then there are the un-vaccinated kids. These kids scare the HELL out of me because I have rarely, if ever, seen some of the diseases THAT THIS KID SHOULDN'T EVEN BE AT RISK FOR GETTING. I've never seen Diphtheria, Tetanus, Polio, or even mumps. Now this mild rash on the kids leg, which is almost assuredly just a viral xanthem (a viral "cold" in the skin) just might be a meningiococcal rash which means this kid could be dead in a few hours if I don't diagnose it immediately and start intravenous antibiotics. That cough that the 4 month old has had for 3 days might not be his first case of viral bronchitis, it may be pertussis that can have him cough so much he gets hypoxic brain damage.

Here is a list of childhood vaccines that are recommended by the Centers for Disease Control. Next to the vaccine is the recommended age for first vaccination (most require multiple innoculations for best immunity). Then I describe to you what this MOSTLY PREVENTABLE disease can do to your child or to others.

meningiococcal (6 weeks): This prevents a bacteria that wants to cause two different, but related diseases in your child: Meningococcemia and Meningitis.
Meningococcemia is a bacterial infection of the blood. It often starts with flu-like symptoms. A fever, nausea, body aches, headache, and tiredness. Sounds like the viral syndrome that every healthy kid gets several times a year. That rash on your child's leg may look just like a viral xanthem when you bring them to see me in the ER. We give him acetaminophen in the ER, tell you to alternate with ibuprofen, push fluids, watch him closely, and bring him back if anything gets worse. The acetaminophen brings the fever down and you put him to bed. The next morning you go to wake him up and notice he is burning hot, his legs are all splotchy, and he doesn't want to wake up. You rush him back to my ER where he is diagnosed with Meningiococcmia, started on intravenous antibiotics, put on a ventilator, and admitted to the ICU. If we are lucky your child will survive, although he will likely lose his legs.
Meningitis is an infection or inflammation of the lining around the brain and spinal cord. It can be caused by many different viruses or bacteria. Bacterial meningitis commonly has a much worse outcome in terms of death and long term disability than viral meningitis. Until the development of meningococcal and pneumococcal vaccines the most common cause of meningitis were these bacteria. Meningitis can also start with flu-like symptoms of fever, nausea, body and headaches, and fatigue....looks very much like that viral syndrome that your child gets several times a year. Bacterial meningitis however, can quickly move from these benign symptoms to permanent brain damage or death in a matter of hours.
Here are some links to videos of Meningococcemia and Bacterial Meningitis:
(in spanish, but pictures in the first two minutes tell the story)

(the caption states this was viral meningitis, but I doubt it was due to the need for amputation).

pneumococcus (2 month) covers 13 of the worst serotypes of Streptococcus pneumoniae which are the second leading cause (next to Meningococcal) of bacterial meningitis. Strep pneumoniae is also a primary cause of ear infections and systemic blood infections. Some statistics say that, in developing countries, pneumococcus kills more kids than malaria, AIDS, and measles combined. Of course, as it's name implies, it also is a primary cause of pneumonia.
Here's what can happen to your child:


Pertussis (2 months) Your kiddo comes home from school with a mild fever and a cough. This is going to happen a few times every school year, and you're sure he will get better. If he's vaccinated, he probably will. If he's unvaccinated, you need to worry, because I certainly will in the emergency department because this may be whooping cough. No big deal if you bring him to see me because if I suspect it then I can treat it easily with an antibiotic. But the much bigger deal is your younger children, or your younger nieces and nephews who are not old enough to be immunized. Your unvaccinated child may have been carrying, and spreading, pertussis for as long as a MONTH before he started coughing. Now all of those unimmunized babies your child has been around may wind up in the pediatric ICU looking like this baby.



Haemophilus Influenza B (2 months). Or that mild fever and cough could progress into something else, like epiglotittis. This is an inflammation of the epiglottis, which is the flap that covers your windpipe when you swallow so that food doesn't go down it. What happens when your epiglottis gets inflammed? It covers that windpipe and you can't breathe. This can happen very quickly and is an absolute emergency.

Epiglottitis - YouTube

What happens when your child can't breathe due to epiglottitis closing off his windpipe and you bring him to my ER? I have to cut a hole in his throat so he breathe through it. Here is a video of that procedure, although this is done in the operating room. If I have to do it in the emergency department it is a lot faster, messier, and bloodier.

Imagine watching me do this to your child in the emergency room: TRACHEOSTOMY - YouTube

By the way, I've never done one of these in the ER. If you don't get your child immunized with the HIB vaccine, your child may be the first one I do.

Diphtheria (2 months): Fever, chills, fatigue, cough, headache....sounds like the viral syndrome again doesn't it? And it probably is, but if your child isn't vaccinated it could be diphtheria. Your child's lymph nodes in their neck may swell up so much that I have to put a tube down their throat so they can breathe. If I can't get the tube down their throat, I may have to again cut a hole in your child's throat so they can breathe. Diphtheria is fatal in upwards of 10% of cases, and possibly as high as 20% in the very young or elderly.

Polio (2 months): The poliovirus wants to attack the nerves that control your child's muscles. Polio is almost wiped out from the planet due to the vaccines...but we could have said the same thing about Diphtheria 15 years ago before it's resurgence. I've never seen a single case of it, so I'm sure I will miss it the first time I do see it.

Hep B (birth) - Very infective. Causes hepatitis which can lead to permanent liver damage, and sometimes death.

Hep A (1 year) - Similar to Hep B.

Rotavirus (2 month) - Very infective horrible diarrhea that can lead to severe dehydration and hospitalization. In America this has a very low death rate, but very uncomfortable for the child and parents.

tetanus (2 month) - If your child gets tetanus their muscles can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. Yes, your child can cramp up so much that they break their own bones. We can prevent that with tetanus vaccine.

Measles (1 year) - Fever, fatigue, body aches, and a rash everywhere. While not typically a fatal disease, it often progresses to a serious pneumonia that can require hospitalization.

mumps(1 year) Fever, fatigue for few days. Swelling in the throat. Usually goes away without any big deal. Unless you are a male who is past puberty, then you are at risk for inflammation of your testicles which can lead to infertility. Women too can have inflammation of her ovaries and infertility issues. And then there is the nearly 30% chance of spontaneous miscarriage if a pregnant woman contracts mumps.

rubella(1 year) Not commonly a significant disease for your child. But if your child gives it to a pregnant woman then the pre-born child is at high risk for congenital rubella syndrome (CRS). This results in a miscarriage approximately 20% of the time. The surviving babies have significant risk of being born with a wide range of deformities including mental retardation, deafness, cataracts, retina problems, congenital heart problems, small head, etc etc, etc.
This is what rubella vaccine prevents: Congenital Rubella Syndrome - Ian s story - YouTube

Varicella(1 year) Yeah, I know, it's only chickenpox. You probably had chickenpox when you were a child and you don't think it's a big deal. It usually isn't. It can RARELY cause swelling around the brain, but that's very rare. However the bigger consequence of chickenpox happens 30-60 years AFTER they go away because, you see, the virus never really goes away. It just hides in a nerve root for decades until it comes back as shingles which is an incredibly painful rash. I've had to put people into the hospital before just to control their pain.

HPV (11 year) prevents most of the papilloma viruses that cause the most aggressive forms of cervical cancer. While cervical cancer can be detected early by annual pap smears, these pap smears on detect the cancer, they don't prevent or treat it. Furthermore many young woman do not get the pap smears, and don't go to the doctor until they have symptoms. But in that respect cervical cancer is like colon cancer; once you have symptoms, you probably have very advanced disease.

Now you know the risks of NOT getting the vaccines. While there is some small risk from getting vaccines (injection site discomfort, guillain-barre, anaphylaxis, etc), these risk are miniscule compared to the risks of preventable diseases

thanks for that- Odium and the rest of the anti-vaccine idiots will ignore it.

They will leave their kids unvaccinated, and be shocked when their kids end up infecting an infant with measles and the infant dies- and be quick to blame it on immigrants, rather than their own ignorance.

Anyone old enough to remember polio victims should denounce these idiots for what they are- dangerous idiots.

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

Hell yes- how often do you and I agree on anything?

Odium is just as stupid as the assholes millionaires in Marin who give their kids a Porsche but not a vaccination.

I wouldn't mind quite as much if they were only endangering their own kids(which is bad enough) but they endanger every baby too young to be vaccinated and every child who has a compromised immune system and can't be vaccinated.

Yep, and you also have to add in the pregnant women who can be exposed to certain diseases that lead to miscarriages or birth defects.

 

[Preacher]

thanks for that- Odium and the rest of the anti-vaccine idiots will ignore it.

They will leave their kids unvaccinated, and be shocked when their kids end up infecting an infant with measles and the infant dies- and be quick to blame it on immigrants, rather than their own ignorance.

Anyone old enough to remember polio victims should denounce these idiots for what they are- dangerous idiots.

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

Hell yes- how often do you and I agree on anything?

Odium is just as stupid as the assholes millionaires in Marin who give their kids a Porsche but not a vaccination.

I wouldn't mind quite as much if they were only endangering their own kids(which is bad enough) but they endanger every baby too young to be vaccinated and every child who has a compromised immune system and can't be vaccinated.

Yep, and you also have to add in the pregnant women who can be exposed to certain diseases that lead to miscarriages or birth defects.

Funny my wife refused to get a TB test because she is pregnant and her doctor AGREED WITH HER as there has never ben tests done on pregnant women who get the TB test and we sure in the hell weren't putting our unborn child at risk nor my wife.

 

[Preacher]

The doctor actually wrote her a note saying its not safe for her to have it done.

 

[Boatswain2PA]

It is reasonable for an asymptomatic pregnant woman to forego a screening test that has not been proven safe during pregnancy (note for idiots - "has not been proven safe during pregnancy" does NOT equal "not safe during pregnancy"). There is very little value for TB testing in asymptomatic people, however the little value that exists with it overwhelms the infinitesimal risk of the TB skin test. It is also reasonable for your wife to go ahead and GET that TB test, because there is absolutely no evidence that it is harmful to the woman or her child.

However it is unreasonable to forego vaccines in an otherwise unhealthy child. Since you place so much credence in this one physician's word, why don't you ask him/her about immunizing your kids.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I want RELIABLE sources when I make my vaccination decisions: Comedians and Porn Stars.

 

[martybegan]

Well at least you managed to put a tiny bit of truth in that rant of yours. Immigrants are the reason its happening. Fact remains the truth is out there if you people would actually care to read it or hear it. You don't so its not up to me to convince you. I know that 99% of these diseases were ending or ended before these vaccines were made and the only reason vaccines exist now is because they are hell of a profit maker.My kids have never been healthier and IF they get a disease we will get them over it and they will then be immune. I managed to get chicken pox AFTER getting the CP vaccine..wasn't horrible but it wasn't fun but hell of a lot better than injecting their bodies with chemicals and screwing them up worse. Natural immune systems will do their jobs just fine

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

Hell yes- how often do you and I agree on anything?

Odium is just as stupid as the assholes millionaires in Marin who give their kids a Porsche but not a vaccination.

I wouldn't mind quite as much if they were only endangering their own kids(which is bad enough) but they endanger every baby too young to be vaccinated and every child who has a compromised immune system and can't be vaccinated.

Yep, and you also have to add in the pregnant women who can be exposed to certain diseases that lead to miscarriages or birth defects.

Funny my wife refused to get a TB test because she is pregnant and her doctor AGREED WITH HER as there has never ben tests done on pregnant women who get the TB test and we sure in the hell weren't putting our unborn child at risk nor my wife.

Now the TB test is a bugaboo for you guys?

 

[Preacher]

It is reasonable for an asymptomatic pregnant woman to forego a screening test that has not been proven safe during pregnancy (note for idiots - "has not been proven safe during pregnancy" does NOT equal "not safe during pregnancy"). There is very little value for TB testing in asymptomatic people, however the little value that exists with it overwhelms the infinitesimal risk of the TB skin test. It is also reasonable for your wife to go ahead and GET that TB test, because there is absolutely no evidence that it is harmful to the woman or her child.

However it is unreasonable to forego vaccines in an otherwise unhealthy child. Since you place so much credence in this one physician's word, why don't you ask him/her about immunizing your kids.

Because she is a OGBYN. Doesn't matter what any doctors says I am not putting that crap in my body or my kids.

I want RELIABLE sources when I make my vaccination decisions: Comedians and Porn Stars.

Funny how I don't get any of it from them.

Like I said Odium and the other idiots will blame immigrants rather than their own self enforced ignorance.

The only other group that can bring together differing sides of the political spectrum are those Westboro assholes. These anti-vaccine nutters do wonders for cross-aisle relations.

It's even better that they come from both ends of the political spectrum as well.

Hell yes- how often do you and I agree on anything?

Odium is just as stupid as the assholes millionaires in Marin who give their kids a Porsche but not a vaccination.

I wouldn't mind quite as much if they were only endangering their own kids(which is bad enough) but they endanger every baby too young to be vaccinated and every child who has a compromised immune system and can't be vaccinated.

Yep, and you also have to add in the pregnant women who can be exposed to certain diseases that lead to miscarriages or birth defects.

Funny my wife refused to get a TB test because she is pregnant and her doctor AGREED WITH HER as there has never ben tests done on pregnant women who get the TB test and we sure in the hell weren't putting our unborn child at risk nor my wife.

Now the TB test is a bugaboo for you guys?

ANY vaccine that puts chemicals in my body will not come near me or my kids

 

[Boatswain2PA]

You listen to her because she told you what you what to hear, not because she is an OBGYN.

Why don't you listen to the immunologists from the Infectious Disease Society of America? Because they say things you don't like, so you just choose to ignore them.

I know I'm not going to change your mind. You are not intelligent enough to be able to process information that does not conform to your emotions. However I do hope that I can actually impart some knowledge into people's mind who are on the fence about immunizations and unfortunately come across your asinine drivel.

1. Immunizations are very effective, although nothing is perfectly effective. ie: They don't ALWAYS work, but they do most of the time.

2. The risk from immunizations are miniscule in comparison to the risk of NOT getting them. Despite what you will find on some crazy people's website. ASK your MEDICAL PROVIDER (not some idiot on the interrnet) about vaccinating your child.