New solar breakthrough could end coal

[Luddly Neddite]

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/05/new_solar_breakthroughs_could_be_the_final_nail_in_coals_coffin/

A class of minerals known as perovskites could be the best solar panel material you haven’t heard of. Until now, they’ve been an extremely promising breakthrough in efficient solar conversion, but not so great for people who want to avoid lead exposure.

Not any more, thanks to the efforts of two separate groups of researchers — at Northwestern and Oxford — who’ve figured out how to replace lead with tin.

In both cases, the new cells aren’t as efficient as their lead-containing predecessors — so far, Science reports, they’re only able to convert about 6 percent of the energy from sunlight into energy, about a third of what other perovskites are able to do. But the advantage is clear: tin is a much cheaper, not to mention safer, alternative. And in both cases, the researchers emphasize that this is just the beginning. ”Other scientists will see what we have done and improve on our methods,” said Mercouri G. Kanatzidis, who led the Northwestern team. “There is no reason this new material can’t reach an efficiency better than 15 percent, which is what the lead perovskite solar cell offers. Tin and lead are in the s

 

[RandomVariable]

Wow, technology moving forward in leaps and bounds once we start researching the possibilities. Who would of thought? In other words we can do this if we try but we have to start trying harder.

 

[RGR]

Cool! Now get them to bid to lower electric prices mentioned in the other thread and we'll know this isn't yet another pipe dream.

 

[NLT]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

A class of minerals known as perovskites could be the best solar panel material you haven’t heard of. Until now, they’ve been an extremely promising breakthrough in efficient solar conversion, but not so great for people who want to avoid lead exposure.

Not any more, thanks to the efforts of two separate groups of researchers — at Northwestern and Oxford — who’ve figured out how to replace lead with tin.

In both cases, the new cells aren’t as efficient as their lead-containing predecessors — so far, Science reports, they’re only able to convert about 6 percent of the energy from sunlight into energy, about a third of what other perovskites are able to do. But the advantage is clear: tin is a much cheaper, not to mention safer, alternative. And in both cases, the researchers emphasize that this is just the beginning. ”Other scientists will see what we have done and improve on our methods,” said Mercouri G. Kanatzidis, who led the Northwestern team. “There is no reason this new material can’t reach an efficiency better than 15 percent, which is what the lead perovskite solar cell offers. Tin and lead are in the s

Maybe, but you liberals will shut down mining for perovskites because some snail or turtle lives in the area.

 

[Dot Com]

Wow, technology moving forward in leaps and bounds once we start researching the possibilities. Who would of thought? In other words we can do this if we try but we have to start trying harder.

^ that

deniers operate under the false assumption that we are limited to what we already know. IOW's- they recoil from non-fossil fuel related R & D.

 

[ScienceRocks]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

A class of minerals known as perovskites could be the best solar panel material you haven’t heard of. Until now, they’ve been an extremely promising breakthrough in efficient solar conversion, but not so great for people who want to avoid lead exposure.

Not any more, thanks to the efforts of two separate groups of researchers — at Northwestern and Oxford — who’ve figured out how to replace lead with tin.

In both cases, the new cells aren’t as efficient as their lead-containing predecessors — so far, Science reports, they’re only able to convert about 6 percent of the energy from sunlight into energy, about a third of what other perovskites are able to do. But the advantage is clear: tin is a much cheaper, not to mention safer, alternative. And in both cases, the researchers emphasize that this is just the beginning. ”Other scientists will see what we have done and improve on our methods,” said Mercouri G. Kanatzidis, who led the Northwestern team. “There is no reason this new material can’t reach an efficiency better than 15 percent, which is what the lead perovskite solar cell offers. Tin and lead are in the s

Another great advancement BY THE WHITE MALE! You see, it would be stupid to ignore all the good we do!

This is a great advancement that may do great things for humanity...

 

[guno]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

A class of minerals known as perovskites could be the best solar panel material you haven’t heard of. Until now, they’ve been an extremely promising breakthrough in efficient solar conversion, but not so great for people who want to avoid lead exposure.

Not any more, thanks to the efforts of two separate groups of researchers — at Northwestern and Oxford — who’ve figured out how to replace lead with tin.

In both cases, the new cells aren’t as efficient as their lead-containing predecessors — so far, Science reports, they’re only able to convert about 6 percent of the energy from sunlight into energy, about a third of what other perovskites are able to do. But the advantage is clear: tin is a much cheaper, not to mention safer, alternative. And in both cases, the researchers emphasize that this is just the beginning. ”Other scientists will see what we have done and improve on our methods,” said Mercouri G. Kanatzidis, who led the Northwestern team. “There is no reason this new material can’t reach an efficiency better than 15 percent, which is what the lead perovskite solar cell offers. Tin and lead are in the s

Another great advancement BY THE WHITE MALE! You see, it would be stupid to ignore all the good we do!

This is a great advancement that may do great things for humanity...

Yes A white male

Yang Yang, a materials scientist at the University of California, Los Angeles who’s made important strides in improving the efficiency of lead-based perovskites,

 

[guno]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

Another great advancement BY THE WHITE MALE! You see, it would be stupid to ignore all the good we do!

This is a great advancement that may do great things for humanity...

Yes A white male

Yang Yang, a materials scientist at the University of California, Los Angeles who’s made important strides in improving the efficiency of lead-based perovskites,

Prof. Yang Yang, UCLA ? UCLA Materials Science and Engineering

 

[Uncensored2008]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

That would be nice, but that is from Salon, so until some more reputable journal, like Mad Magazine or NEWS OF THE WORLD reports on it, it has no value...

 

[PredFan]

Man! What a disappointment. I would live to hear that solar power works. Then I realized that Luddley quoted a piece from Salon.com the most idiotic, partisan, site you can find. One that tells lie after lie after lie.

Oh well, perhaps some day we will get some reliable news on this kind of thing.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wow, technology moving forward in leaps and bounds once we start researching the possibilities. Who would of thought? In other words we can do this if we try but we have to start trying harder.

^ that

deniers operate under the false assumption that we are limited to what we already know. IOW's- they recoil from non-fossil fuel related R & D.

We've found a solar panel that is one third as efficient as existing ones - will the progress never stop?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

New solar breakthrough could be the final nail in coal?s coffin - Salon.com

A class of minerals known as perovskites could be the best solar panel material you haven’t heard of. Until now, they’ve been an extremely promising breakthrough in efficient solar conversion, but not so great for people who want to avoid lead exposure.

Not any more, thanks to the efforts of two separate groups of researchers — at Northwestern and Oxford — who’ve figured out how to replace lead with tin.

In both cases, the new cells aren’t as efficient as their lead-containing predecessors — so far, Science reports, they’re only able to convert about 6 percent of the energy from sunlight into energy, about a third of what other perovskites are able to do. But the advantage is clear: tin is a much cheaper, not to mention safer, alternative. And in both cases, the researchers emphasize that this is just the beginning. ”Other scientists will see what we have done and improve on our methods,” said Mercouri G. Kanatzidis, who led the Northwestern team. “There is no reason this new material can’t reach an efficiency better than 15 percent, which is what the lead perovskite solar cell offers. Tin and lead are in the s

Wow, they can make new, really cheap, solar cells that don't work, and Luddly thinks this is the best thing ever.

 

[RandomVariable]

Off topic so hopefully no one replies but I was walking through just an average, ordinary parking lot a few days ago and there was a car I didn't recognize with a 'T' on the front. It was a Tesla sitting there like nothing special. Cool.

 

[Mr. H.]

There is no ultimate substitute for hydrocarbons. There never will be.

 

[SillyWabbit]

I'm still looking for the "may end coal" part.

 

[Old Rocks]

Cool! Now get them to bid to lower electric prices mentioned in the other thread and we'll know this isn't yet another pipe dream.

Now RGR, you already know from personal experiance that the only way to reduce your electrical bill is to become a producer yourself, instead of just a consumer.

 

[Moonglow]

Well when will tin prices rise? I have a lot of junk to recycle...

 

[flacaltenn]

I'm still looking for the "may end coal" part.

Yeah -- so am i.. The Hope Fairy is an icon in the Greenie church..
Even IF this basic research translates, it supports a six hour a day, region limited power source that NEEDS to be a supplement to a PRIMARY RELIABLE generator.

It's science, not salvation. And it will be 2025 before any peroskovites go on a next gen Mars Rover.. We knew 40 years ago how to build more efficient PV panels. All you had to do was to mine a shitload of Arsenic.. Guess how far that Gallium Arsenide solar technology went.

If only Dotty and the other disciples would be so optimistic about our ability to improve and innovate on nuclear and fuel cells -- we just COULD be kissing coal bye-bye.. Instead of putting lipstick on the pig..

 

[flacaltenn]

Cool! Now get them to bid to lower electric prices mentioned in the other thread and we'll know this isn't yet another pipe dream.

Now RGR, you already know from personal experiance that the only way to reduce your electrical bill is to become a producer yourself, instead of just a consumer.

Sure a six hour a day producer that doesn't have to worry about keeping the hospital powered the OTHER 18 hours of the day.. THAT'S a sweet deal.. Let's DISCOURAGE investment in nighttime power by MANDATING that GoldiRocks can be an Energy Magnate during the day..