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    Nazi concentration camp guard caught, sent back to Germany...
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    Nazi guard Palij deported by US to Germany
    21 Aug.`18 - A 95-year-old former Nazi collaborator who served in the notorious SS as a labour camp guard in World War Two has arrived in Germany after a long deportation battle in the US.

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    ICE Deports Former Nazi Labor Camp Guard from Queens, NY

    August 21, 2018 – The White House announced Tuesday that the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) implemented a 2004 order of deportation for a former Nazi labor camp guard who had been residing in Queens, N.Y.
     
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    As a descendant of Jewish people who were murdered in the concentration camps of the Nazis I beg pardon for the totally wrong behavior of
    our German government in case of the deportation of Jakiv Palij from the USA to Germany. Such a deportation against the free will of this man is not justifiable with the known facts and with nothing what I could call "real justice". Additionally: This man is not a German! He comes not home - he is banned from the USA and sent into a totally strange country. But no one is able to give any informations about any real crime this man had done.The only accusation which allows to deport him (or to imprison him) would be meanwhile murder if we speak about crimes of the years 1943-45. But no one knows whether this man is a murderer or not. Looks like the only reason why the USA banned this man is it that the people in the USA think on their own nazistic and racistic. He should not be a member of the "superior" US-American community any longer and should not be a burden for the US-American social systems.

    Such a revenge is not justice. As a member of people who had died in the Holocaust I deny that this what happens here in this case has anything to do with justice in context with the Holocaust. In world war 2 everyone had the right to kill him ... but now is 2018 and this idiot is meanwhile 95 years old and he had lived in the USA since 1949 (about 70 years). The reason why he was deported is in my eyes racism. It's a shame for Germany to support this US-american racism.



    At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice he is the worst.
    Aristotle

    Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
    Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
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    Ahhhh, poor Nazi.
     
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    it is my understanding, that germans used ONLY VOLUNTEERS as civilian
    labor camp guards. He VOLUNTEERED to serve as a murderer in camps in
    which even children were being barbarically murdered whilst
    (?) in his early 20s, ------he is not innocent. Then he lied about it. <<<<
    that is the information presented.
     
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    I see in you the danger to become very easily a Nazi with this mocking answer. I tell you what's one of the worst problems: The government of the USA - Donald Trump and his loyalists - threaten every citizen of the USA to be able to lose the US-american citizenship. I remember in this context for example a German, who came to the USA in the age of some month and was deported from the USA to Germany in the age of 60, because he was made in an US-American hospital to a drug addict with a wrong medicamentation against pain and lost his drivers license in a police control. They found out he never was a naturalized citizen of the USA.

    I guess I said very clear what I think about the Ucrainian Jakiv Palji (who was once a citizen of Poland, before he became an US-American) - but let me tell you: If you don't like to be seen as a Nazi on your own then find out what Werner von Braun had done before he had sent the first US-American to the moon, exhume his body and send the body of this Nazi back to Germany, if you don't like to live in a country, where the body of this Nazi is poisening the holy ground of the USA and the moon. What do you find now in your thoughts? Excuses for the deeds of this man, because he is famous and is well respected worldwide?

    So let me say clearly: It's misuse of the victims of the Holocaust what the USA and Germany are doing in this case. I'm sure no one who lost people in the shoa because of the injustice of the Nazis thinks about that the world should sink down in injustice. As long as no one knows anything about a concrete murder in which this man was envolved - I'm nearly sure he was envolved, but no one knows really - I don't see any way, how it could be justifiable what the USA and Germany were doing in case of this man. The victims of the Holocaust never were on the side of any form of senseless revenge - the victims of the Holocaust always were on the side of justice. Justice is non-negotiable.
     
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    Lots of people of foreign nations worked in the SS. In 1943 were about 25% of the people of the SS no Germans. Other were perhaps naturalized Germans. I don't know. As far as I know after the war exclusively only members of the SS who were real Germans were punished - never anyone of any other nation. And lots of members of the SS - the most members - were not punished at all. Still today the most people think the SS were elite soldiers of the German Wehrmacht and not members of an illegal private army of the political party NSDAP.

    Let me ask you something else: What would you do with a supporter of the mass murderer Stalin during world war 2? Are you ready to send all the supporters of Stalin - the complete US-army - to Germany, so we have to punish them? Or do you think it could be a good idea to find out who was a real murderer?

     
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    You hate The American President so you think Nazis are OK.

    Got it.
     
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    I did not know. Any Hindus? Buddhists? ----
    lots of SUDANESE? There were lots of Nazis in
    my area of the USA------I have no doubt that they could have been considered ARYANS by adolf.
    The people of the USA in pre-revolutionary times
    (my town was THAT OLD) originated from
    merry old England ---AND GERMANY----and some
    other little European spots-------there were Nazi sympathizers in England too. Adolf, no doubt
    would have accepted HENRY FORD into his circle
    of pals. and even THOMAS EDISON
     

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