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    Do we need MORE troops in Afghanistan or do we need more special forces troops supported with manned and unmanned air support?

    How many troops did the Soviet Union commit to Afghanistan during the pinnacle of the conflict? How many rusting hulks of Soviet armored vehicles litter the Afghanistan terrain? Now granted we gave them covert assistance with weapons and intel but the Soviets got it handed to them so what can we learn from that?

    Will a massive run up in troop levels give us the results we want or should we use smaller, faster, and more well trained troops who know how to fight (and WIN) against the type of tactics the Taliban uses? I don't know if we have enough special forces to do the job but I want to ask if posters here if they think this is a better way to wage war against the Taliban in Afghanistan.
     
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    I mean come on tanks don't go up donkey trails, artillery won't bring those caves down, and THOUSANDS MORE troops will NOT keep the Taliban from hit and run tactics.
     
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    Just pull out, like we should have done years ago.
    We cannot fix Afganistan.
     
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    wow I thought this one would get some discusion.
     
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    I think we could have 200,000 troops on the ground in Afaghnistan and it would not help the war effort but if we can bring more special ops troops I think they have a FAR better skill set to the type of conflict Afghanistan is.
     
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    Oh goodie. Fucking idiots who think they know more than career soldiers.... yep, we sure need input from you. Please email Obama - be quick, he's planning to make an annoucement.... just as soon as he's had a few more fucking days to think about it.
     
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    You have GOT to be fucking kidding RIGHT!!!??? After BUSH ignored and FIRED any military advisor who didn't get in lock step with his agenda?


    And hey you may want to look at some history of the conflict between the Taliban and the Soviet Union. Granted we gave covert assistance but like I said I would LOVE to see you get an Abrams M1 up a fucking donkey trail!!!
     
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    Christ 2,500 posts in a month......Get a fucking job!
     
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    So just how many troops do you think we would need to take EVERY mountain and EVERY cave in afghanistan? 6 7 800,000? The point is we need to bring the fight to THEM and fight on THEIR terms because they sure as FUCK know how to fight a war in Afghanistan. THEY have the "home court advantage" if you will. They know the terrain and they sure as fuck know HOW to use the terrain. They also know their fellow Afghanis. They either give villages help or they threaten to kill, rape, and pillage the village, and they make those threats very real. So how the FUCK do we "win" in Afghanistan? Buy off the drug lords, burn down the only "cash crop" and worsen the average Afghanis POVERTY? Do we try to win the "Hearts and Minds" of the Afghanis, too late we fucked up by giving them all the tools to run out the Soviets and forgot to help rebuild a country RAVAGED by a war. Maybe if WE had built schools then we wouldn't have left a populace that could be educated to HATE the west. Maybe we could have had young women being EDUCATED rather than SUBJUGATED and kept as little more than SLAVES to the men. Maybe we could have helped them convert to a crop that isn't sold by the drug lords to feed OUR drug addiction. But of course all of this is just what ifs becuase we COULDN'T be bothered to try to WESTERNISE because the TALIBAN were so darn upstanding. Anti-drug, anti-porn, anti-womens rights, INCREDIBLY strict hardcore religious ZEALOTS, so much in common with the "religious right" here who, if they could, would IMPOSE their religion on others.
     

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