Moon landings trump Watergate

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    Every human that set foot on the moon - or that maybe ever will - was during Nixons presidency.

    Sure he carried out JFKs and LBJs agenda -that is what presidents are suppossed to do.

    A better nation back then.
     
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    The moon landings were LBJs baby
    Something he got right

    Nixon killed the Apollo program before it was completed
     
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    Big whoop-de-doo.

    The missions were planned before Nixon was president.

    Peanut the Balloon Twisting Clown could have been president and the landings still would have happened.
     
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    We have no longer have "National Goals".
     
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    The U.S. Moon exploration program originated during the Eisenhower administration. In a series of mid-1950s articles in Collier's magazine, Wernher von Braun had popularized the idea of a manned expedition to the Moon to establish a lunar base. A manned Moon landing posed several daunting technical challenges to the U.S. and USSR. Besides guidance and weight management, atmospheric re-entry without ablative overheating was a major hurdle. After the Soviet Union's launch of Sputnik, von Braun promoted a plan for the United States Army to establish a military lunar outpost by 1965.

    After the early Soviet successes, especially Yuri Gagarin's flight, U.S. President John F. Kennedy looked for an American project that would capture the public imagination. He asked Vice President Lyndon Johnson to make recommendations on a scientific endeavor that would prove U.S. world leadership. The proposals included non-space options such as massive irrigation projects to benefit the Third World. The Soviets, at the time, had more powerful rockets than the United States, which gave them an advantage in some kinds of space mission.

    Advances in U.S. nuclear weapons technology had led to smaller, lighter warheads, and consequently, rockets with smaller payload capacities. By comparison, Soviet nuclear weapons were much heavier, and the powerful R-7 rocket was developed to carry them. More modest potential missions such as flying around the Moon without landing or establishing a space lab in orbit (both were proposed by Kennedy to von Braun) were determined to offer too much advantage to the Soviets, since the U.S. would have to develop a heavy rocket to match the Soviets. A Moon landing, however, would capture world imagination while functioning as propaganda.


    Apollo landing sitesMindful that the Apollo Program would economically benefit most of the key states in the next election—particularly his home state of Texas because NASA's base was in Houston—Johnson championed the Apollo program. This superficially indicated action to alleviate the fictional "missile gap" between the U.S. and USSR, a campaign promise of Kennedy's in the 1960 election. The Apollo project allowed continued development of dual-use technology.

    Johnson also advised that for anything less than a lunar landing the USSR had a good chance of beating the U.S. For these reasons, Kennedy seized on Apollo as the ideal focus for American efforts in space. He ensured continuing funding, shielding space spending from the 1963 tax cut and diverting money from other NASA projects. This dismayed NASA's leader, James E. Webb, who urged support for other scientific work.

    The Saturn V booster was the key to U.S. Moon landings. The Saturn had a perfect record of zero failures in thirteen launches.

    Whatever he said in private, Kennedy needed a different message to gain public support to uphold what he was saying and his views. Later in 1963, Kennedy asked Vice President Johnson to investigate the possible technological and scientific benefits of a Moon mission. Johnson concluded that the benefits were limited, but, with the help of scientists at NASA, he put together a powerful case, citing possible medical breakthroughs and interesting pictures of Earth from space.

    For the program to succeed, its proponents would have to defeat criticism from politicians on the left, who wanted more money spent on social programs, and on those on the right, who favored a more military project. By emphasizing the scientific payoff and playing on fears of Soviet space dominance, Kennedy and Johnson managed to swing public opinion: by 1965, 58 percent of Americans favored Apollo, up from 33 percent two years earlier. After Johnson became President in 1963, his continuing defense of the program allowed it to succeed in 1969, as Kennedy had originally hoped.

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    The United States' Apollo 11 was the first manned mission to land on the Moon on 20 July 1969.[4] There have been six manned U.S. landings (between 1969 and 1972) and numerous unmanned landings, though no soft landings have occurred since 1976.


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    Three Apollo missions were scrubbed under Nixon and replaced with Skylab....Yuk
     
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    Carpet Bombing. Killing millions. Trumps both.

    No better then than now.
     
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    Watergate was the left's finest hour and they they relive it every chance they get. It wasn't that long ago but who in their right mind would authorize a couple of junior reporters to post unverified stories from an informant they invented and didn't reveal for decades until he was dead and couldn't answer questions? If you look closely at stories of the Moon Landings they almost never mention the president.
     
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    I was around back then and I seem to remember almost every mission mentioning the President. It was Nixons name on the Lunar module, Nixon speaking by phone to the men on the moon, Nixon meeting them on their return

    Nixon made sure he was not ignored

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    Nixons name on the moon with the three astronauts. Can you imagine the outrage if Obama did that?
     
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