Mofaz: Hamas won upper hand, truce a mistake

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    Mofaz: Hamas won upper hand, truc... JPost - Diplomacy & Politics

    You could just write this off as political campaigning, but a poll taken just before the ceasefire was announced showed 70% of Israelis opposed it. Mofaz has not been doing well in the polls lately, but if this ceasefire does not hold, his experience as Defense Minister during Defensive Shield just might make him the next PM.
     
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    They should have went in to clear those missile launching sites, they still may haft to
     
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    They should have gone in to capture or kill the entire leadership of the terrorist gangs no matter how long it took and whatever the cost.

    Israel is cursed lately with politicians in the PM's office instead of political leaders. First Olmert lost his nerve during Cast Lead, and now Netanyahu has done even worse. Israel needs a PM with some balls.
     
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    I like Netanyahu, he is no Olmert. Wo knows what kind of pressure was put on him from Clinton and Obama. They need parts from us for their F16s ect...
     
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    I'm sure a lot of pressure was put on him by Obama and Clinton, but huge pressure was put on Eshkol before the Six Day War and on Begin before he ordered the IAF to take out Saddam's nuclear reactor and especially on Sharon before he ordered the IDF into areas A and B during the second intifada, but these leaders had the strength to do what was best for Israel despite US pressures and the political skills to keep the relationship strong. Netanyahu is a skilled politician but not a strong political leader.

    This was the rap on him the first time he was PM, and I wanted to believe he had grown stronger, but he has not.
     
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    sit tight----for the jihadists this is a hudna------it is just a matter of careful wait and watch now
     
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    It's not really a done deal yet. From what I have read, there is vague wording about Hamas not importing weapons, which Meshaal has already announced they will do, and while Israel agreed to allow goods and persons to move more freely through the crossings, no details on what that means have been agreed to. My sense is that the language was left vague because everyone knew they would not be able to agree on the details. That's fine when you're just talking, but in two days, they start negotiating the details, presumably through Egypt, and then we'll see if this ceasefire has any substance to it.
     
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    The cease fire won't hold because it can't, Hamas's mission is to destroy Israel. The muslim brotherhoods mission is the same, so Netanyahu acts as if he's for it. Hamas will break the cease fire, then Israel will have to go in, plus let’s not forget Israel needs our help in taking out Iran when needed, this is not a reactor in Iraq we are talking about, The situation is not the same as thirty years ago, Netanyahu is the right leader for this
     
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    Mofaz is running against him so everything Netanyahu does is wrong. Israeli politics are no different than American.
     
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    You are right, Iran will retaliate against the US in a number of fronts.
     

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