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Hobbit said:What...the...hell. Appealate judges seem to be more interested in freeing criminals than protecting their victims. If this kind of stuff keeps up, expect to see an epidemic of vigilante justice begin to "violate the rights" of these scumbags.
Don't blame the judges Hobbit..The law does apply to all..Sheriff's top officials insisted on using the form even after State Attorney Michael Satz urged them to change it as early as May 2001.
Mr. P said:Don't blame the judges Hobbit..The law does apply to all..
The Sheriff's office screwed this up.
100% of the time, else ya get this outcome.archangel said:as the old saying goes..."cross the T's and dot the I's"
Yea, if you ever have a need for one because maybe you were say, in the wrong place at the wrong time and your ass is in trouble and you're innocent, I bet you don't call them "fucking lawyers" then. Geeezzzzzzinsein said:Thanks to all the Fucking lawyers out there who made this kind of situation possible.
Mr. P said:Don't blame the judges Hobbit..The law does apply to all..
The Sheriff's office screwed this up.
Yes it did, but I would like to know where this stupid rule came from that some judge some 40 years ago decided that you had to read rights to anyone. Is it in the constitution? I can't find it. Is ignorance of the law now a defense? There are laws broken that someone does not know that it is illegal to do, and yet they go to jail/prison. Can they use the defense that no one came and read them the law that made that act illegal and that is why they broke it? I don't understand why the Miranda Right has to be read to anyone. If they want to hear it, Google it and read away.Mr. P said:Don't blame the judges Hobbit..The law does apply to all..
The Sheriff's office screwed this up.
http://www.usconstitution.net/miranda.htmlMerlin said:Yes it did, but I would like to know where this stupid rule came from that some judge some 40 years ago decided that you had to read rights to anyone. Is it in the constitution? I can't find it. .... I don't understand why the Miranda Right has to be read to anyone. If they want to hear it, Google it and read away.
Mr. P said:Yea, if you ever have a need for one because maybe you were say, in the wrong place at the wrong time and your ass is in trouble and you're innocent, I bet you don't call them "fucking lawyers" then. Geeezzzzzz
Mr. P, I realize and agree that is a constitutional right, no argument at all. We have a lot of constitutional rights that nobody reads to us though. Why would a judge pick just one constitutional right and say it had to be read to a criminal? The idea of having to read it at all just sounds moronic to me.Mr. P said:
It's a matter of your freedom being taken by the Government..that's why. In addition one is not a criminal until convicted....So we are all do the same "reading of rights".Merlin said:Mr. P, I realize and agree that is a constitutional right, no argument at all. We have a lot of constitutional rights that nobody reads to us though. Why would a judge pick just one constitutional right and say it had to be read to a criminal? The idea of having to read it at all just sounds moronic to me.
Mr. P said:It's a matter of your freedom being taken by the Government..that's why. In addition one is not a criminal until convicted....So we are all do the same "reading of rights".