Mind Control of MSNBC, FOX and The Net

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  1. IndependntLogic
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    Beware! This post might anger you, if you're a "Sheeple"!

    The media has done an amazing job of literally hypnotizing hundreds of millions of people in America at a time. Not just television but Liberal websites like DailyKos and Conservative ones like AmericanThinker.
    I recall Dailykos being caught in an outright lie about Hawaii's laws concerning birth certificates. But Libs believe everything they see on that site.
    Americanthinker wrote an article about how the FL Swat Team waited until services were over and took off their boots before arresting some terrorist imam and his son. Yet Conservatives believe everything they see on that site.
    So it's not like we get our information from only FOX or MSNBC. But it's no coincidence that the views on FOX all coincide with those promoted by World News Daily, AmericanThinker, Drudge etc... Just as the views promoted on MSNBC just happen to coincide with those on DailyKos etc...

    And hundreds of millions of people believe they think for themselves - and that it's just another "coincidence" that they agree with all those other people on myriad unrelated issues.
    Sheeple, Drones, Kool-aid drinkers, Obamabots, Wingnuts, Moonbats - both sides call each other names when disagreeing. But usually they don't realize that the name they are calling someone else, applies directly to them. The hypnosis is that complete.
    We used to be a nation of people who leaned Right or Left. But no more. It's all or nothing and anything other than complete submission on 19 of every 20 issues, makes you the enemy.
    Are you hypnotized? Not hard to tell. If you have the exact same opinion as is promoted by MSNBC or FOX on 19 out of 20 unrelated issues, you might as well not even post. You're not expressing your opinions, you're expressing "theirs".

    Here's a couple dozen issues that make it easy to see if you're under the spell:
    1) Unions are hurting America and American business.
    2) Obama's effectiveness as a president.
    3) Obamacare is horrible and should be repealed
    4) Nancy Pelosi's hypocrisy
    5) Harry Reid's corruption
    6) Michele Bachmann's lies
    7) Whether we should eliminate Gun Control laws or increase them
    8 ) Obama's actions on Libya
    9) Obama's success fighting terrorism and protecting the USA
    10) Bush's water-boarding being the cause for getting OBL
    11) Clinton's Fair Housing Law causing the housing crisis
    12) Bush's deregulation of the Mortgage Industry causing the housing crisis
    13) Global Warming being a certainty
    14) Occupy Wall St being comprised only of Socialists who want handouts
    15) Treatment of Islam in America
    16) Treatment of Christianity in America
    17) SEC Regulation
    18 ) Corporate Taxes
    19) Gay marriage rights
    20) Drill Baby Drill!
    21) Alternative Energy
    22) Abortion
    23) Sarah Palin's treatment by the press
    24) The Idea that "Corporations are People"

    Now seriously, those are two dozen issues tht are largely unrelated. Yet the moment most people read them, they know which side they're supposed to take on every single one of them. Are Gay Rights, Global Warming, Gun Control and Corporate Taxation related in any way? Nope. But those "under the spell" have the exact views expressed by FOX or MSNBC on 20+ out of the 24 issues listed. They think 30 million people have magically all come to the exact same conclusions and opinions.

    So how do Independent Thinkers determine if someone else is Liberal or Conservative?
    By their stance on issues. How else would you make such a judgment? There's a funny surprise answer to that question.
    When I disagree with Independent Thinker on issues above, they argue the issue. When I disagree with those under mind-control, they do what they have been taught to do: Label me a "super-secret-agent-<Lib / Conserv> infiltrator!". So it's not my political views that earn me the label they apply. it's that this is what they have been taught to do - keeps them from having to address issues & questions directly, and more importantly, eliminates the need to think for themselves. If nothing else, this place IS entertaining!

    I'm sur they'll be easy to spot on this thread: They'll attack this thread. They'll attack me for having the gall to point out they are the very robots they claim others to be. Outrage and indignation are always the reaction to unwanted truth.
    But they won't dare discuss the issues. We know why :ack-1:
     
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    This is a fair post. Thank you!

    Everyone should be able to read different points of view and be able to discuss them.
     
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    Yes, clearly only Independents and moderates have their heads screwed on straight and are never troubled with annoying things like "thoughts"
     
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    Why Frank, thank you! I didn't expect anyone to come in and prove the point of my post so quickly!
    1. Nothing on the issues.
    2. Nothing to support or counter the topic.
    3. A post which is EXACTLY as I predicted in the last sentence!

    You da man, baby! (lemme guess: you'r 22+ out of 24? :lol: It's okay, we knew).
     
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    Kill your TVs, folks.
     
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    I believe in personal responsibility. Not becuase Fox tells me to. Becuase it works for me.
    I beleive regulations costs jobs. Not becuase the right tells me so...but becuase I have expoerienced it..and it is also economic logic.
    I believe in a womans right to choose. Not becuase of the "when life begins debate" but becuase I am a conservative and I dont feel I have the right to tell ANYONE what they can and cant do

    I beleive in gay marriage...but that is becuase i find girl on girl really hot to watch....nah....I believe it in for the same reason I believe in freedom to choose....although I really do find girl on girl really hot to watch.

    I know very few people that believe in what they do becuase "they are supposed to believe that way"...

    And as for me? I get blasted by conservatives on here nearly as often as I do by the liberals.
     
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    Here's another idea. Watch as much FOX as you do MSNBC (or vice versa). Watch Univision (if you speak Spanish), read sources that are outside the norm. The Hong Kong Standard, Times of India, Munich Times, London Telegraph, Moscow Times and more, are all available in English and free online.
    Step outside the box for a bit.
    Of course, there are people who prefer to believe that only one media source, in only one country in the entire world, is right about evrything. Think about that idea.
    Same applies to websites.
     
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    I agree with just about everything in the OP. My answers to the points in questions:

    1) Unions are hurting America and American business. - A few unions do, due to corruption, but certainly the majority exist to protect the rights of the American worker.
    2) Obama's effectiveness as a president. Meh, his intentions were good for the most part, but his leadership skills have been lacking.
    3) Obamacare is horrible and should be repealed Certainly not, modified perhaps, but not repealed.
    4) Nancy Pelosi's hypocrisy What hypocrisy are we referring to, specifically?
    5) Harry Reid's corruption All politicians are corrupt. Harry Reid no more than most in the congressional leadership.
    6) Michele Bachmann's lies What "lies" specifically? Certainly the mental retardation from HPV shots was a doozy, we can all agree on that, but what else?
    7) Whether we should eliminate Gun Control laws or increase them Gun Control should be eliminated, except for exploding projectiles (rocket launchers) and the stupid-assed laws that have recently been put in place in several states allowing people to bring guns into bars.
    8 ) Obama's actions on Libya Certainly more intelligent actions than those took by Bush in Iraq, but that's not really saying much.
    9) Obama's success fighting terrorism and protecting the USA A+. Certainly more effective at a lower cost than the actions of the previous administration.
    10) Bush's water-boarding being the cause for getting OBL Only to a very small extent.
    11) Clinton's Fair Housing Law causing the housing crisis Partially true, but certainly not the whole picture.
    12) Bush's deregulation of the Mortgage Industry causing the housing crisis It was the Republican Congress of 1994 and 2000 in combination with Clinton that brought us the deregulation that brought us to our current situation. I wasn't aware that Bush had anything to do with that. Though certainly Bush defunded the SEC, and helped bring about a massive bubble by lowering capital gains rates to levels not seen since the decade that immediately preceded Black Friday and the Great Depression.
    13) Global Warming being a certainty Global Warming IS a certainty. The only area there is doubt is about the cause of Global Warming. Though a large part of the scientific community believes it to be man-made, they have not yet given proof of that theory.
    14) Occupy Wall St being comprised only of Socialists who want handouts This is just crap. Misinformation to try to get people to forget that the POINTS made by OWA are correct.
    15) Treatment of Islam in America Meh.
    16) Treatment of Christianity in America Meh.
    17) SEC Regulation Woefully underfunded.
    18 ) Corporate Taxes Perhaps set at too high of a rate, but they are avoided by most of the major corporations anyway. Lower them a bit, and do away with all loopholes, especially the ones that allow corporations to avoid taxes by putting their money in offshore accounts.
    19) Gay marriage rights Why is this even an issue? Marriage is dictated by the state. The Federal Government is not given any power in this area by the Consitution. Unless we're going to have a Constitutional Amendment, it's stupid to argue this.
    20) Drill Baby Drill! Whatever, as long as the laws surrounding spills are changed to make Oil Corporations criminally culpable for damage they cause, then it's fine with me.
    21) Alternative Energy This is just a no-brainer. There are just so many positives to alternative energy expansion, that it doesn't matter what side of the fence you sit on, there's something good for you.
    22) Abortion Meh.
    23) Sarah Palin's treatment by the press Anyone who actively tries to get as much attention as Sarah Palin deserves the results of said scrutiny.
    24) The Idea that "Corporations are People" Since citizen ship is in fact defined in the 14th amendment to the constitution, it is unconstitutional to define a corporation as a person.
     
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    Mind-control??

    FOX??????

    [​IMG]

    That was dispelled.....

     
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    are you claiming that before "the net" that people were not hyper partisan and locked in stances based on their political ideology?

    i completely disagree...... while the net may have made people more aware of the number of peoplpe who have rigid party stances, i think it was happening long before the net was around.......
     

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