Meaning of second coming of Jesus

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    Meaning of second coming of Jesus

    The names like Rama, Krishna, Jesus etc., belong to the external human body, which has taken birth. Such names are generated only after the birth of these human bodies. Therefore, such names are certainly the names of the external human bodies only, which are like the shirts. When the human bodies perish, these names also must perish. But these names exist as eternal names even after the disappearance of these human bodies due to death. The reason is that these names were directed towards the inner Lord even during the time of existence these human bodies. A person is carrying vegetables for selling. You call him by the name “ Vegetables”.

    The person is not vegetable and the vegetables are not the person also. But the possessor of the vegetables is called by the name of the possessed material. Similarly, when the name “ Krishna or Jesus” was called, this name was directed towards the internal Lord also. Therefore, even if the human body perished, since the Lord is eternal, Krishna or Jesus is also eternal. When Krishna said that He will come again and again, whenever necessary ( Yada Yada hi….Gita), it means the eternal Lord present in the human body will come again and again through different human forms. Similarly, when it is told that Jesus will come again, it means the Lord present in that human body will come again. Here the names Krishna and Jesus indicate the Lord and not the human body.

    When some body says that He will come again after 20 years, it does not mean that he will come in the same shirt. Even in the case of the ordinary human beings the name indicates the inner eternal soul also. When people say that Subba Rao died, it means that the name indicates the external human body. People say that Subba Rao’s last journey is today. It means that the name indicates only the external body, which is going to be cremated in the burial ground on that day. In these sayings the name indicates the external human body. But after one-year people say that today is the yearly ceremony of Subba Rao. When you have stated that Subba Rao finished his last journey one year back, how can you bring Subba Rao again after one year? Here the name indicates the inner soul. Therefore, even in the worldly terminology the name indicates both the external body and inner soul according to the context.

    Therefore, when you say that Jesus was crucified and killed, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Jesus will come again on final day of destruction of this world, the name indicates the inner Lord. Thus, the same name indicates the external or internal item according to the context. When you say that Krishna danced in Brundavanam, the name indicates the external human body. When you say that Krishna will come again and again whenever necessary, the name indicates the inner Lord. If you realise this discrimination, you have no quarrel with any religion. When you say that Jesus or Krishna will come again, it means that the inner Lord is going to come in different human bodies again.

    When you are drawing the picture of Jesus or Krishna, the picture represents the external human body only and not the inner Lord. You can never draw the picture of the inner Lord because He is beyond the realm of imagination. You cannot say about the existence of two unimaginable Lords. When the Lord is unimaginable, He can be only one. If you say that there are two entities, it means that both the entities are imaginable. Therefore, you have to accept that there is only one unimaginable Lord or God. The external human bodies are different and cannot be one. When I say that Krishna is Jesus, it means that the Lord in the body of Krishna and in the body of Jesus is one and the same. It does not mean that the two different bodies are one and the same.
     
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    Oh, I get it...you're a spambot. Look at all these places you've posted the same drivel.

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    A whopping 1,760 places!
     
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    yes, the vessel is simply that which contains the energy. the energy perpetuates while the vessel rots in the ground once its use is over.

    i do accept that there is much to energy that we cannot understand. we are, after all, limited by our finiteness. and capable only of understanding from that place, which usually means we understand poorly. i recognize that energy understood culturally. we put faces to energy, and assign it attributes that are human, much as we put sweaters on our pets in part so we can "humanize" them. we relate better to those things that are more like us than not more like us, so we must make energy more like ourselves to understand it. that of necessity limits drastically how we will perceive energy.
     
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    Energy is a creation of God only. Hence not above God. For God energy is also an illusion but not for us.

    This entire universe made of energy is just an imagination or dream of God only. Hence with respect to God this entire universe is almost nothing.
     
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    I am posting my articles for a truth ful discussion. You must read and try to discuss with me rather than doing a baseless arguments.
     
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    I must do nothing, moron.
     
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    Im going to have to agree with Ravi here. If you wanted a truthful discussion, you would be discussing. You wouldnt be ignoring what people say and ask and then lecturing. People have been trying to discuss matters.
     
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    Ho hum...The entire universe is made of energy and nothing. Albert Einstein showed us how matter is essentially concentrated energy. This was dramatically illustrated by the atomic bomb which caused the ending of a lot of names.

    And since most atoms consist primarily of empty space, the matter that is in the universe, including you and I, consists of more empty space than matter. Thus, the universe is almost nothing.

    However, if energy is an illusion to god, then god can do no work since that requires energy. (join the club, god, there's a lot people who can't work in america right now.) He cannot create since without energy being put into the system, he would violate the laws of thermodynamics. And of course, I suppose god dreamed you with the knowledge that the condition of reality you describe obtains. Or perhaps you dreamed that god dreamed you. Or god dreamed that you dreamed that he dreamed you.

    You see, that's the silly sort of regresses you can get into as long as you choose to make assertions rather than rational argument. And by the way, this "inner Lord" you mentioned. I've been looking over anatomical charts all day and I'm not quite sure to which part you are referring.
     
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    The primordial energy is called as Mula Maya or Mula Prakruti, which is in the form of space. When this is condensed, it appears in the form of light etc. When this is further condensed, it appears in the form of matter through illusion as explained above. When the primordial energy or its form works in a special technology, such work is called as awareness. Therefore, awareness as work form, light etc., as condensed form and matter as intensively condensed form are the three forms of primordial energy. These three forms are called as Maha Maya.

    The cosmic inert energy is the space from which the entire creation is evolved. Matter, awareness, light, heat etc., along with their modifications constitute this universe and all this is evolved from the primordial energy, which is the space. In Veda it is said that space is generated from God and from space the entire creation is evolved. Hence, space is the first item of creation, which acts as the primary source for the whole creation. The modifications of the space are due to illusions only and thus the entire universe is an illusion form of the space only, which is the inert primordial energy. Hence, the universe is space only and we can say that the universe is maintained by space.

    When the illusions are removed, all the modifications in the universe disappear and this is the final dissolution of the universe into space. Therefore, the space can be called as Brahman, which is the creator, maintainer and destroyer of the universe. All these points are correlated with Brahman. It is said that the universe is created, maintained and destroyed by Brahman. It is also said that the entire world is Brahman only since the world is based on illusion. All these are merits of the primordial energy to be called as Brahman, the greatest in the universe. The concept that the soul or Atman in its basic form in deep sleep is Brahman is also correlated.
     
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    Who has God come as since Jesus? You obviously have some names or you wouldnt be making the claim? Were the wicked destroyed at His coming?
     

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