Mass Shootings - NRA or Big Pharma at fault

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    This article details a common thread for many of the mass shooting events over the past few decades. From Columbine to Parkland, the use of SSRI antidepressants many have played a key role in these outbursts of hate.

    From the article: From Prozac to Parkland: Are Psychiatric Drugs Causing Mass Shootings?

    “Columbine mass-killer Eric Harris was taking Luvox — like Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Effexor and many others, a modern and widely prescribed type of antidepressant drug called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs.” Along with fellow student Dylan Klebold, Harris shot 13 to death and wounded 24 in a headline-grabbing 1999 rampage. “Luvox manufacturer Solvay Pharmaceuticals concedes that during short-term controlled clinical trials, 4 percent of children and youth taking Luvox — that’s one in 25 — developed mania, a dangerous and violence-prone mental derangement characterized by extreme excitement and delusion.”

    • Twenty-five-year-old Patrick Purdy murdered five children and wounded 30 in a schoolyard shooting rampage in Stockton, California, in 1989. He’d been taking “Amitriptyline, an antidepressant, as well as the antipsychotic drug Thorazine.”

    • “Kip Kinkel, 15, murdered his parents in 1998 and the next day went to his school, Thurston High in Springfield, Oregon, and opened fire on his classmates, killing two and wounding 22 others. He had been prescribed both Prozac and Ritalin.”

    WND’s Leo Hohmann adds to the picture, having reported in 2015 (all quotations are his):

    • “Aaron Ray Ybarra, 26, of Mountlake Terrace, Washington, allegedly opened fire with a shotgun at Seattle Pacific University in June 2014, killing one student and wounding two others.” Ybarra “said he’d been prescribed with Prozac and Risperdal to help him with his problems.”

    • “Jose Reyes, the Nevada seventh-grader who went on a shooting rampage at his school in October 2013 was taking a prescription antidepressant [Prozac] at the time….”

    • “Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis sprayed bullets at office workers and in a cafeteria on Sept. 16, 2013, killing 13 people including himself. Alexis had been prescribed [generic antidepressant] Trazodone by his Veterans Affairs doctor.”

    • “In 1988, 31-year-old Laurie Dann went on a shooting rampage in a second-grade classroom in Winnetka, Ill., killing one child and wounding six. She had been taking the antidepressant Anafranil as well as Lithium, long used to treat mania.”

    • “In Paducah, Kentucky, in late 1997, 14-year-old Michael Carneal, son of a prominent attorney, traveled to Heath High School and started shooting students in a prayer meeting taking place in the school’s lobby, killing three and leaving another paralyzed. Carneal reportedly was on Ritalin.”

    • “In 2005, 16-year-old Jeff Weise, living on Minnesota’s Red Lake Indian Reservation, shot and killed nine people and wounded five others before killing himself. Weise had been taking Prozac.”

    • “47-year-old Joseph T. Wesbecker, just a month after he began taking Prozac in 1989, shot 20 workers at Standard Gravure Corp. in Louisville, Kentucky, killing nine. Prozac-maker Eli Lilly later settled a lawsuit brought by survivors.”

    Even more troubling is the study linking the use of these drugs to a violent behavior:

    Source: People who take antidepressants are '50% more likely to be convicted of assault' | Daily Mail Online

    "Popular antidepressant pills make young people violent, it is feared.

    An Oxford University study found that men – and women – in their late teens and early 20s – were almost 50 per cent more likely to be convicted of offences from assault to murder when taking SSRI drugs.

    This family of anti-depressants includes Prozac, as well as Seroxat, Lustral, Cipralex and Cipramil, the most commonly prescribed of the pills.

    One in eight Britons takes SSRIs each year – and the number of prescription has doubled in the last decade.

    Meanwhile in the US around 11 per cent of people aged 12 and over take antidepressants, including SSRIs, according to the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. "



    Seems that, although guns were used in all of these, and the NRA has taken the brunt of the outrage, that unless Big Pharma is also put to the same standard, all we are doing is chasing our tails trying to solve these problems.
     
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    Quick question................if someone is on those medications, do you think that the guns should be taken away as long as they are on them?
     
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    It goes far beyond the NRA or the pharmaceutical companies. We now live in a country where a large portion of young people have no fathers, no spiritual guidance, and have grown up believing that there are no consequences for their actions.
     
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    I can’t say, reading the articles, that it’s not an issue I wouldn’t keep an open mind on.

    The interesting thing, and I’ll try to find the link, those treated for the same mental issues, but not on SSRI’s rarely have violence issues. But those on them are 50% more likely to be convicted of violent crime then the general population.
     
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    After some thought, I would have to say yes. Since there are other treatment options, the acceptance of this one would mean turning over all guns in the home and anyone on them, caught with a gun, should face charges.
     
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