Mass shooting in France at magazine that published Mohammed cartoons

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    Ideologies can't "wage war"!
     
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    In, The Theory and Practice Of Hell, author Eugen Kogen effectively describes the oppressive police state atmosphere of the German nation during the rise of the Third Reich. So if you lived in Germany at that time, either as a Nazi Party member or as an ordinary citizen, any opposition to Party objectives, regardless of how slight, would get you arrested, imprisoned, tortured, and possibly hanged with piano wire -- which is what the SS liked to do with Germans who helped Jews.

    In spite of this circumstance there were many Germans who ignored the potential consequences to hide or otherwise aid their Jewish friends -- and many of them paid the ultimate price. But in spite of these circumstances there are many Jews who ignore the exceptions and harbor hatred for all Germans, thinking of them all as Nazis.

    These same German-hating Jews also choose to ignore the many Jews who aided the SS by informing on other Jews. Some of these turncoat Jews actually served as guards (Sonderkommando) in concentration camps and participated in the actual mass murder of prisoners.
     
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    The Nazi Holocaust wouldn't have happened if the German people (particularly the middle class and industrialists) popularly opposed the deportations. Some Nazi leaders in private thought they might have had to call it off, but were astounded how easily the German people went along with it.

    The German people, like the Japanese people were collectively responsible for what happened to people under their control or 'protection', as they have multiple opportunities to oppose it.
     
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    Turkey also occupies Cyprus and you never hear lefties throwing hissyfits and wanting to BDS Turkey.
     
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    One does not have to visit Turkey to understand that Erdogan increasingly favors an Islamist -like agenda, does one?
     
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    I think that's going a bit too far. My mom grew up in Nazi Germany. Too young to do or know much but it is something I have pondered. I have seen many documentaries and don't believe most Germans really knew what was going on early on, many not until the end. What we take for granted here didn't happen then and there. Media was very controlled. The population was told what the Nazis wanted them to be told, period.

    I am not excusing any responsibility though, they were a bit desperate and willingly went along with what they should have known was wrong. Power can only exist if you let it exist.
     
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    They did know what was going on, but that wasn't the point. They knew people were being dragged from their homes for being Jewish, and they knew Jewish shops were being raided and property confiscated. They knew terrible things were going on, even before the genocide began.

    They heard their government rant and rave against Jews every day, but did nothing. That is the point, as turning a blind eye to murder because of race or religion is just as bad as being a participant in that crime.

    The student leaders of the rose movement understood, and it is a shame you don't. Doing nothing and turning a blind eye to the activities of a totalitarian government, is just as useful to a regime as supporting them. All a regime like Nazi Germany needs is a passive population, that turns a blind eye.
     

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