MAINE QUESTION #1: I need your help in deciding how to vote!!!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by xotoxi, Oct 12, 2009.

?

MAINE QUESTION 1: Do you want to reject the new law that allows gays to marry?

Poll closed Nov 3, 2009.
  1. YES

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  2. NO

    100.0%
  1. xotoxi
    Offline

    xotoxi Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2009
    Messages:
    30,322
    Thanks Received:
    5,203
    Trophy Points:
    1,110
    Location:
    your mother
    Ratings:
    +5,492
    I'm not sure what to do, so I am asking for YOUR help!

    How should I vote?

    (If you've ever had a burning desire to cast your vote in Maine, this is your opportunity!)
     
  2. editec
    Offline

    editec Mr. Forgot-it-All

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2008
    Messages:
    41,427
    Thanks Received:
    5,598
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Maine
    Ratings:
    +5,617
    Let me start by explaining that legally I consider marriage nothing more than a civil contract.

    So, as far as gays are concerned, if they were given opportuity to have civil marriage contracts, I think they should be satisfied.

    However, I also see no reason not to allow them to call their civil contracts marriage, just as man/woman civil contracts we call marriage currently are.

    I guess I just think this whole debate about the USE of a word to describe this civil contract beween two people is rather silly.

    Gays want to call their civil cotract "marriage"?

    Fine by me.

    Straights who hate gays don't want to call it a marrigage?

    Also fine by me.

    Just so long as the STATE treats that civil contract exactly the same as they treat religiously sanctioned marriages, what does it really matter?

    A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.

    I'll be voting to give Maine's Gays the same cvil rights as everybody else, folks.

    If GOD is upset that gays are living together in a sexual relatioship, (which I seriously doubt) then GOD can punish them when they're dead.

    It's not my job to punish people for falling in love and wanting to take care of each other for the rest of their lives.

    And, FWIW, I don't think it's your job to punish those people, either.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
    Last edited: Oct 12, 2009
  3. chanel
    Offline

    chanel Silver Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,130
    Thanks Received:
    2,746
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Location:
    People's Republic of NJ
    Ratings:
    +2,749
    What a stupid question. What if you are for gay marriage but respect the rights of the clergy to deny performing the service?

    I am pro-choice, but I respect the fact that some Catholic hospitals and personnel can not perform the procedure. I don't think I'm alone there.

    Is there a box for "stupid fucking question"?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  4. xotoxi
    Offline

    xotoxi Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2009
    Messages:
    30,322
    Thanks Received:
    5,203
    Trophy Points:
    1,110
    Location:
    your mother
    Ratings:
    +5,492
    That would be funny if there was a voters ballot that had a choice "stupid fucking question".
     
  5. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,332
    Thanks Received:
    12,695
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,779
    You need to read the question in the OP again.
     
  6. Immanuel
    Offline

    Immanuel Gold Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Messages:
    16,823
    Thanks Received:
    2,210
    Trophy Points:
    183
    Ratings:
    +2,224
    Exactly how I see things.

    And that also is how I feel. Facing the fact that I too am a sinner deserving of God's wrath, I can only pray that God is as forgiving of all sinners including homosexuals. For by his word, if he must condemn the homosexual for breaking his commands, he must also condemn me.

    Immie
     
  7. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,332
    Thanks Received:
    12,695
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,779
    Yes
     
  8. xotoxi
    Offline

    xotoxi Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2009
    Messages:
    30,322
    Thanks Received:
    5,203
    Trophy Points:
    1,110
    Location:
    your mother
    Ratings:
    +5,492
    I agree with you. I would go one step further and say that the state should not recognize "marriage", but that all unions betwixt any two consenting adults should be considered "civil unions" which would give those two individuals all the tax and social implications that marriage does today.

    And these civil unions would be allowed between ANY two adults, including relatives. There would be not sexual connotation implied or inferred with a civil union, as I do not feel that the state should be issuing licenses for sex. A civil union would exclusively be a legal contract...just like a business contract between two companies.
     
  9. chanel
    Offline

    chanel Silver Member

    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2009
    Messages:
    12,130
    Thanks Received:
    2,746
    Trophy Points:
    98
    Location:
    People's Republic of NJ
    Ratings:
    +2,749
    Huh?
     
  10. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,332
    Thanks Received:
    12,695
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,779
    Unless Xo has misrepresented the ballot question, the new law both allows gays to "marry" and allows individuals and religious group the right to refuse to perform such marriages.

    Which is how it should be...no one should be able to compel a religious group to perform ceremonies.
     

Share This Page