Liz Cheney says Trump appears to have been ‘personally involved in planning’ 6 Jan insurrection

I can't wait until we find out that trump called the Jan 6th rioters "retards" or something like it.
If you think he inspired them, that's not likely. But a lot of them were. They allowed themselves to be used by Pelosi and Schumer. We all know they instigated it, along with a few useful idiot pawns of the Democrats, including the Democrat activist who carried the Confederate flag
 
NFBW wrote: Babbitt was not protesting - She was involved with hundreds of Trump supporters commiting a physical attack against members of Congress and the second and third in line in succession to the Presidency. She was involved in an attack against the United States of America. We shoot our enemies. No need to give a warning. 21NOV10-POST#941

Oldestyle wrote: What member of Congress was physically attacked? 21NOV08-POST#942

NFBW wrote: OK Oldestyle , Are you contending that when Mike Pence got word that the Federal facility, that he was in, was under a physical attack, meaning the security forces employed to protect the facility and the government officials conducting business inside, were engaged in physical combat with a multitude of attackers and were being overwhelmed, - Are you saying Oldestyle that Pence did not have Reasonable Apprehension that his life and the physical well being of his family were under a severe threat from those attackers including from a very aggressive Ashley Babbitt? 21NOV11 -POST#980

NFBW wrote: Reasonable apprehension means that the victim apprehends or perceives that a harm or threat of physical harm is being directed toward them? 21NOV11 -POST#980

NFBW wrote: So what is your point Oldestyle ? Is it that Pence was never in harm’s way because no attacker made actual physical contact with him? Are you really that stupid? 21NOV11 -POST#980
My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. You've assumed that Babbitt was going to physically attack Mike Pence therefore it was OK for someone to shoot her without warning yet there is not a single example of ANYONE in that crowd harming a single member of Congress! Those protesters spoke about stopping what they perceive to be an illegal certification of an election won by fraudulent means...they wanted to get inside of the Congress to stop that...not kill members of Congress. You on the left need to push this narrative that the very lives of members was in dire peril because you need an excuse for why someone shot and killed an unarmed protester. My "point" is that Ashli Babbitt never needed to die! That wasn't a crowd that was out for blood. That was a crowd that was out to STOP an election from being certified! You have absolutely no way of showing that if they HAD entered the House floor that they would have done anything other than mill around, congratulate themselves and take selfies! You have absolutely no way of showing they wouldn't have let members of Congress walk through them to leave just as those Police officers at the door were allowed to leave!
 
Oldestyle wrote: The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are! 21APR06-POST#401

Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Which of the two suspects, Floyd or Babbitt, was behaving irrationally and violently, both emotionally and physically, and was visibly breaking a law in view of an armed police officer and posing a threat to the officer and others ( PAY ATTENTION HERE Oldestyle ) in the first ten seconds when an on duty police officer first came directly face to face to the eventual victim? 21NOV11-POST#983
 
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Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Are you certain Oldestyle that BABBITT stopped to have her backpack inspected by Capitol Police at a security checkpoint when she ‘peacefully’ entered the US Capitol Campus with all her fellow protesters on Jan6 2021? 21NOV11-POST#984
 
Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Was Babbit lying face down and in handcuffs behind her back, being restrained in the presence of four police officers when she died at the hands of police? 21NOV11-POST#985
 
My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something.

They did do something. They broke into the Capitol and threatened the lives of members of our government while beating up police to get inside.

You've assumed that Babbitt was going to physically attack Mike Pence therefore it was OK for someone to shoot her without warning yet there is not a single example of ANYONE in that crowd harming a single member of Congress!

No one assumed she was going to physically attack Mike Pence. She wasn't even on that side of the Capitol. You really do say all sorts of weird shit.

Those protesters spoke about stopping what they perceive to be an illegal certification of an election won by fraudulent means...they wanted to get inside of the Congress to stop that...not kill members of Congress. You on the left need to push this narrative that the very lives of members was in dire peril because you need an excuse for why someone shot and killed an unarmed protester.

Fuck you, lying lunatic. They stormed the Capitol chanting, "hang Mike Pence!"

My "point" is that Ashli Babbitt never needed to die! That wasn't a crowd that was out for blood. That was a crowd that was out to STOP an election from being certified! You have absolutely no way of showing that if they HAD entered the House floor that they would have done anything other than mill around, congratulate themselves and take selfies! You have absolutely no way of showing they wouldn't have let members of Congress walk through them to leave just as those Police officers at the door were allowed to leave!

Police don't assume people threatening others are harmless. That's a pretty retarded defense. Especially when it's a violent mob yelling, "they're leaving!" and "hurry, they're getting away!" at the sight of Congressmen being escorted out of the House chamber.

She ignored warnings and attempted to breach a police barricade to lead a violent mob into a highly restricted area where some lawmakers were still holed up. She earned that Darwin award.
 
She ignored warnings and attempted to breach a police barricade to lead a violent mob into a highly restricted area where some lawmakers were still holed up. She earned that Darwin award.

Was Officer Byrd the only officer at that barricade? If he was he had to use deadly force to stop her because she was obviously fuckin’ nuts and he would have to single handidly have to restrain her abd in that case would not be able to contend with others seeing that she made it through. He made the right decision anyway but if alone at that side of the doorway there is zero question he had to plug the dumbassed Trump rioter.
 
Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Was Babbit lying face down and in handcuffs behind her back, being restrained in the presence of four police officers when she died at the hands of police? 21NOV11-POST#985
Did Babbitt die of a self induced drug overdose? No she was an unarmed female protester trying to disrupt the certification of what she deemed was an sham of an election. So why is that an unarmed conservative protester can be shot and killed for breaking a window and not a single liberal protester was shot and killed despite violent riots all over the country lasting months?
 
Oldestyle wrote: Did Babbitt die of a self induced drug overdose? 21NOV11-POST#988

NFBW wrote: It does not matter what Babbitt or Floyd died from at this part of the discussion we are having. One of the questions you have been asked is . . between Floyd and Babbitt which one was visibly physically violent and and visibly in violation of the law at the very first moment when a police officer made face-to-face contact with the victim? Floyd did not die of a drug overdose he was asphyxiated by a police officer who would not let him breathe. Babe it was not a protester at the location where she was shot - she was in on President trumps plan to steal the election from Joe Biden and millions of voters in cities like Detroit Philadelphia and Atlanta, 21NOV11-POST#990

NFBW wrote: Was Babbit lying face down and in handcuffs behind her back, being restrained in the presence of four police officers when she died at the hands of police? 21NOV11-POST#985
 
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Did Babbitt die of a self induced drug overdose? No she was an unarmed female protester trying to disrupt the certification of what she deemed was an sham of an election. So why is that an unarmed conservative protester can be shot and killed for breaking a window and not a single liberal protester was shot and killed despite violent riots all over the country lasting months?
Haha, all you have left are lies and whining.
 
Death Angel wrote: We all know they (Pelosi and Schumer) instigated it, along with a few useful idiot pawns of the Democrats, including the Democrat activist who carried the Confederate flag 21NOV11-POST#981

NFBW wrote: What’s the name of that Dem activist you say, carried the Confederate flag on Jan6? Was he or she arrested? 21NOV11-POST#992
 
NFBW wrote: On January 4 US House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving explicitly wrote, the Capitol and the Capitol Visitor Center "remain closed to all tours, including Member, staff-led and public tours" on January 6." 21NOV11-POST#993

Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Babbitt violated Federal law by being physically inside the Capitol when she arrived at the locked interior door and was confronted by a police officer. 21NOV11-POST#993

NFBW wrote: Floyd was in a public place sitting in his vehicle committing no crime when he was confronted by a police officer 21NOV11-POST#993

Oldestyle wrote: The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are! 21APR06-POST#401

NFBW wrote: So Oldestyle why was Floyd an idiot for sitting in his car if as you say concerning Babbitt that “our entire legal system is based on.…. people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something.” 21NOV11-POST#993
 
Death Angel wrote: We all know they (Pelosi and Schumer) instigated it, along with a few useful idiot pawns of the Democrats, including the Democrat activist who carried the Confederate flag 21NOV11-POST#981

NFBW wrote: What’s the name of that Dem activist you say, carried the Confederate flag on Jan6? Was he or she arrested? 21NOV11-POST#992
Very strange way to reply.

Is there a reason you cannot figure out google?

Type this into your Google and you'll get your answers. I don't spoonfeed adults

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Oldestyle wrote: Did Babbitt die of a self induced drug overdose? 21NOV11-POST#988

NFBW wrote: It does not matter what Babbitt or Floyd died from at this part of the discussion we are having. One of the questions you have been asked is . . between Floyd and Babbitt which one was visibly physically violent and and visibly in violation of the law at the very first moment when a police officer made face-to-face contact with the victim? Floyd did not die of a drug overdose he was asphyxiated by a police officer who would not let him breathe. Babe it was not a protester at the location where she was shot - she was in on President trumps plan to steal the election from Joe Biden and millions of voters in cities like Detroit Philadelphia and Atlanta, 21NOV11-POST#990

NFBW wrote: Was Babbit lying face down and in handcuffs behind her back, being restrained in the presence of four police officers when she died at the hands of police? 21NOV11-POST#985
The Coroner's report disagrees with you, Notfooled. Floyd had lethal amounts of drugs in his system...drugs which cause an inability to breath. Which makes perfect sense since George Floyd was complaining about not being able to breathe even before he was taken to the ground after he refused to let them put him in a squad car.
 
NFBW wrote: On January 4 US House Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving explicitly wrote, the Capitol and the Capitol Visitor Center "remain closed to all tours, including Member, staff-led and public tours" on January 6." 21NOV11-POST#993

Oldestyle wrote: My "point"...something that our entire legal system is based on...is that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something. 21NOV11-POST#982

NFBW wrote: Babbitt violated Federal law by being physically inside the Capitol when she arrived at the locked interior door and was confronted by a police officer. 21NOV11-POST#993

NFBW wrote: Floyd was in a public place sitting in his vehicle committing no crime when he was confronted by a police officer 21NOV11-POST#993

Oldestyle wrote: The fact that Floyd and friend sat there in the car outside of the food mart only goes to show what IDIOTS both he and his friend are! 21APR06-POST#401

NFBW wrote: So Oldestyle why was Floyd an idiot for sitting in his car if as you say concerning Babbitt that “our entire legal system is based on.…. people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something.” 21NOV11-POST#993
Duh? Because he just tried several times to pass a counterfeit bill? What part of that being against the law don't you grasp? THAT was got the police called on his dumb ass! If George hadn't been so drugged out he would have known it was time to hit the bricks.
 
Oldestyle wrote: When a drooling idiot like Joe Biden garners more votes than either Barack Obama or Ronald Reagan got...while at the same time Trump got more votes than he got against Hillary...it's more than a feeling that something underhanded took place. 21NOV11-POST#969

NFBW wrote: I’m sorry Oldestyle you are the one who wrote that BABBITT and her fellow US Congress attackers “were involved in a protest against an election they felt had been stolen.” So if it was more than a “feeling” that something underhanded took place , what is the “something underhanded” that actually took place? It’s been an entire year and no TRUMP rioter or protester or supporter or lawyer or investigator has found anything underhanded regarding the 2020 election. That is the purest of pure reality. Saying Election fraud stole the second term from DJT is more than a feeling alright - It is a lie. A BIG LIE. 21NOV11-POST#996
 
Oldestyle wrote: Duh? Because he just tried several times to pass a counterfeit bill? 21NOV11-POST#997

NFBW wrote: But your "point"... Oldestyle regarding BABBITT was that our entire legal system is based on a system that people are perceived as without guilt until they've been proven to do something unlawful 21NOV11-POST#999

NFBW wrote: So why Oldestyle won’t you perceive that Floyd would have been innocent until proven guilty if Chauvin had not murdered him over suspicion that he passed a counterfeit $20 bill? 21NOV11-POST#999
 
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