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Wishing will never change reality. 2010 in a tie with 1998 and 2005 for the warmest year. 2008, La Nina, lowest solar activity in 100 years, and it ranks at least #10 in the last 150 years. Were things as they have been for the last couple of thousand years, 2008 should have been a very cold year.





Neither will falsification of data. You can whine about 2010 being the warmest year since whenever, but the simple fact remains Hansen is falsifying the temp record to make it so. That you are a willing fool who allows him to get away with it does not alter the fact that the record is beyond suspect.

Really a fucking dumb post, Walleyes, old boy. This is Dr. Spencer's site, and his statement concerning 2010 versus 1998.

Dec. 2010 UAH Global Temperature Update: +0.18 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

WHO WINS THE RACE FOR WARMEST YEAR?
As far as the race for warmest year goes, 1998 (+0.424 deg. C) barely edged out 2010 (+0.411 deg. C), but the difference (0.01 deg. C) is nowhere near statistically significant. So feel free to use or misuse those statistics to your heart’s content.

Walleyes, are you ever going to stop assuming that everyone out here is so stupid as to accept your bald faced lies concerning the changing climate without checking the real data?




How about a more recent posting from the good doctor.

According to his data the temp here and now is basically the same as 30 years ago and continuing to drop. Interesting how you didn't bother to go with the more recent data, par for the course with you clowns. Thanks for playing to form.

UAH Update for January 2011: Global Temperatures in Freefall « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.
 
Neither will falsification of data. You can whine about 2010 being the warmest year since whenever, but the simple fact remains Hansen is falsifying the temp record to make it so. That you are a willing fool who allows him to get away with it does not alter the fact that the record is beyond suspect.

Really a fucking dumb post, Walleyes, old boy. This is Dr. Spencer's site, and his statement concerning 2010 versus 1998.

Dec. 2010 UAH Global Temperature Update: +0.18 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

WHO WINS THE RACE FOR WARMEST YEAR?
As far as the race for warmest year goes, 1998 (+0.424 deg. C) barely edged out 2010 (+0.411 deg. C), but the difference (0.01 deg. C) is nowhere near statistically significant. So feel free to use or misuse those statistics to your heart’s content.

Walleyes, are you ever going to stop assuming that everyone out here is so stupid as to accept your bald faced lies concerning the changing climate without checking the real data?




How about a more recent posting from the good doctor.

According to his data the temp here and now is basically the same as 30 years ago and continuing to drop. Interesting how you didn't bother to go with the more recent data, par for the course with you clowns. Thanks for playing to form.

UAH Update for January 2011: Global Temperatures in Freefall « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

UAH Update for January 2011: Global Temperatures in Freefall « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

OK. Look at the graph. The temperature for January, 2011 is higher than most of the highs from 1979 to 1997. The 13 month running mean from from 2002 to 2007 was higher than the highest highs prior to 1998.

Do you believe that you can lie like that about a graph availble at a single click? Any who dought that Walleyes is lying on this subject just click the link at the top of this post, or in Walleyes post.

Dr. Spencers graph shows the speed of the warming from 1979 until present. It shows how the natural variation overlays this rise, but does not conceal it at all.
 
Really a fucking dumb post, Walleyes, old boy. This is Dr. Spencer's site, and his statement concerning 2010 versus 1998.

Dec. 2010 UAH Global Temperature Update: +0.18 deg. C « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

WHO WINS THE RACE FOR WARMEST YEAR?
As far as the race for warmest year goes, 1998 (+0.424 deg. C) barely edged out 2010 (+0.411 deg. C), but the difference (0.01 deg. C) is nowhere near statistically significant. So feel free to use or misuse those statistics to your heart’s content.

Walleyes, are you ever going to stop assuming that everyone out here is so stupid as to accept your bald faced lies concerning the changing climate without checking the real data?




How about a more recent posting from the good doctor.

According to his data the temp here and now is basically the same as 30 years ago and continuing to drop. Interesting how you didn't bother to go with the more recent data, par for the course with you clowns. Thanks for playing to form.

UAH Update for January 2011: Global Temperatures in Freefall « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

UAH Update for January 2011: Global Temperatures in Freefall « Roy Spencer, Ph. D.

OK. Look at the graph. The temperature for January, 2011 is higher than most of the highs from 1979 to 1997. The 13 month running mean from from 2002 to 2007 was higher than the highest highs prior to 1998.

Do you believe that you can lie like that about a graph availble at a single click? Any who dought that Walleyes is lying on this subject just click the link at the top of this post, or in Walleyes post.

Dr. Spencers graph shows the speed of the warming from 1979 until present. It shows how the natural variation overlays this rise, but does not conceal it at all.




And just as importantly it shows the current temp to be the SAME as 1979 or did that escape you. With the multiple billions of tons of CO2 being rammed into the atmosphere according to your buddy Hansen we should be at least 1.6 degrees warmer than 1979, but looky we're not. It's the same.....POOF goes the theory!
 
Whenever an issue enters economics the blinders go up. Economics has its supporters and lots of money, argument becomes ideology and not factual. Facts don't matter any longer, they are made up or normal. Jeremiads invade the airwaves through think tanks that don't think but present the side their money comes from. Anyone who lived through the pollution of the last century knows too well the damage humans and irresponsible corruptions can do, no on argues those disasters today. Someday we will cease arguing global warming, hopefully human life will still exist.

TED Blog | New thinking on climate change: Al Gore's new slideshow premieres on TED.com

"We are living in the most advanced age of reason known to mankind, in which our worship of rational thought, our belief that the only truths are those which can be empirically demonstrated and our scorn for what we deem by these lights to be irrational have led us progressively to junk religious faith and embrace secularism. And yet, at the very same time, we have abandoned reason for belief in irrational claims that correspond to certain prejudices or obsessions or ideologies; we have deconstructed the very idea of truth itself, that lies at the heart of reason, and as a result display daily credulity before an avalanche of lies and ideological propaganda from a host of different quarters, with the further outcome that those who vainly attempt to point out the facts are themselves dismissed as irrational, cranky or mad." Melanie Phillips’s Diary » Reason fights back
 
Whenever an issue enters economics the blinders go up. Economics has its supporters and lots of money, argument becomes ideology and not factual. Facts don't matter any longer, they are made up or normal. Jeremiads invade the airwaves through think tanks that don't think but present the side their money comes from. Anyone who lived through the pollution of the last century knows too well the damage humans and irresponsible corruptions can do, no on argues those disasters today. Someday we will cease arguing global warming, hopefully human life will still exist.

TED Blog | New thinking on climate change: Al Gore's new slideshow premieres on TED.com

"We are living in the most advanced age of reason known to mankind, in which our worship of rational thought, our belief that the only truths are those which can be empirically demonstrated and our scorn for what we deem by these lights to be irrational have led us progressively to junk religious faith and embrace secularism. And yet, at the very same time, we have abandoned reason for belief in irrational claims that correspond to certain prejudices or obsessions or ideologies; we have deconstructed the very idea of truth itself, that lies at the heart of reason, and as a result display daily credulity before an avalanche of lies and ideological propaganda from a host of different quarters, with the further outcome that those who vainly attempt to point out the facts are themselves dismissed as irrational, cranky or mad." Melanie Phillips’s Diary » Reason fights back




Man will do just fine. Read some history some day and you'll be amazed to discover that the Roman Waming Period was 6 degrees warmer than today and everything prospered. The same happened during the Medieval Warming Period. Whenever the planet has been warmer there has been prosperity for all living things.

It's only the alarmists who preach doom and gloom with no history or science to back them up.
 
Neither will falsification of data. You can whine about 2010 being the warmest year since whenever, but the simple fact remains Hansen is falsifying the temp record to make it so. That you are a willing fool who allows him to get away with it does not alter the fact that the record is beyond suspect.

the warmists dont see it as falsification, just framing to put their point of view in the best light. it IS interesting that satellite data diverge from land temps but not so much from sea surface temps which are harder to 'adjust'.

I am very interested to find out why the RSS lowered the post-1999 temps down. If it had been the other way around there would have been a lot of media attention by now. oh well it will have to be explained sooner or later.

Ian. how do you answer the post above? Is Dr. Spencer also a fraud and liar?


what am I supposed to be answering? the GISS data are diverging from the satellite data, that is for sure. The GISS data have seen repeated and often large adjustments of data going back to the 1800's. the increase for GISS land temps is larger than GISS sea surface temps. how do Hansen's funky figures make Spencer a fraud and a liar? because Spencer doesnt have 2005, 2006 as hot as 1998 and 2010?
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any chance of you answering my question about Mann and Jones' use of badly spliced data and inappropriate methodology yet? still thinking?
 

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