Liberals voice concerns about Obama

Read the article. This has nothing to do with who is calling who what. There's no "exactly" unless a defelction is what you're after.

It's the LEFT ... the people that bought what he was selling doing the complaining.

The only people that called him a Muslim Marxist were YOUR counterparts on the right -- they play rightwingnut to your leftwingnut. But DO try again, huh?


I already know that. The true leftys in the Democratic party supported Edwards, Dodd, and Kucinich in the primaries.


I told you cons that Obama was never a favorite of liberals. And I definetly told you that he was more of a centrist, not a marxist-lenninist.

So, guess what? I was right, and Bushbots and Cons were wrong. Again.
 
I already know that. The true leftys in the Democratic party supported Edwards, Dodd, and Kucinich in the primaries.


I told you cons that Obama was never a favorite of liberals. And I definetly told you that he was more of a centrist, not a marxist-lenninist.

So, guess what? I was right, and Bushbots and Cons were wrong. Again.


Gee, you must win the big prize this week! :clap2::clap2:
 
It's an interesting dichotomy of the left, their claim that change and a whole new approach was needed in washington, and now after the election their change candidate has in effect restored the failed Clinton years and added Bush holdovers, and they praise it as brilliance.

The entire 'change' motif it appears is out the window, and they all now claim to be pragmatists.

This leads to my major probelm with many people on the left, and right also to some extent, they compromise principles as long as 'their' guy is in charge.

We saw this often when Bush was POTUS, many of his socialist giveaways were supported by people who should know better.

But it's far more striking with BO, they built a cult around 'change' and now they claim the 'change' was to bring back the rejected Clintons!
 
It's an interesting dichotomy of the left, their claim that change and a whole new approach was needed in washington, and now after the election their change candidate has in effect restored the failed Clinton years and added Bush holdovers, and they praise it as brilliance.

The entire 'change' motif it appears is out the window, and they all now claim to be pragmatists.

This leads to my major probelm with many people on the left, and right also to some extent, they compromise principles as long as 'their' guy is in charge.

We saw this often when Bush was POTUS, many of his socialist giveaways were supported by people who should know better.

But it's far more striking with BO, they built a cult around 'change' and now they claim the 'change' was to bring back the rejected Clintons!



Well said! :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:
 
You know, this public works infrastructure program he's talking about, the biggest since the interstate program, that sounds pretty progressive, isn't it? <puzzled>
 
You know, this public works infrastructure program he's talking about, the biggest since the interstate program, that sounds pretty progressive, isn't it? <puzzled>

Well, now that rightwing lassaize faire, deregulated capitalism has been completely discredited, I supposed public works projects look pretty New Dealish.

I've never heard a single liberal on this board proclaim Obama to be super liberal, a lefty's wet dream. The only ones who ever called him a marxist-lennist, or a whacked out far left liberal were Cons. And they were only repeating what Sean Hannity and Sarah Palin ordered them to think.

I think Obama is a pragmatist who's perfectly willing to play by the rules as mainstream centrists have laid out. I never saw him as a true lefty. I'm just satisfied that we might have someone who is competent, intellectual, and hopefully capable. Somebody who won't let rightwing orthodoxy get in the way of common sense.
 
So now the people who were complaining that Obama was a marxist are complaining that he is too conservative.

The reason for dropping the windfall profits tax is that conditions have changed. A good leader adjusts to changing conditions.

Unlike George Bush who believes on Wednesday, what he believed on Monday, regardless of what happened on Tuesday.


Oh please.. what conditions suddenly changed in the course of a few days that would cause Obama to do a 180? His economic vision is mighty short sighted if he couldn't see November coming in October.
 
Oh please.. what conditions suddenly changed in the course of a few days that would cause Obama to do a 180? His economic vision is mighty short sighted if he couldn't see November coming in October.

Are you serious? What conditions changed?

Oil went from $141 a barrel to $44 a barrel.

Where have you been?
 
exactly.

The only people who ever called Obama a super liberal, muslim marxist were Cons and Bush fans.

Most Democrats I've seen on message boards said Obama was more of a centrist, in the mold of Bill Clinton.
LOL yeah, Hillary Clinton was such a Bush fan
 
Cons are all over the map, and flip flopping like crazy. It's like mass schizophrenia has inflicted them.

One day, Obama is a marxist-lennist; the next day Obama is a run-of-the-mill lame mainstream centrist.

Cons claimed that liberals were blindly loyal partisan hacks to Obama and would never criticize him; then they post thread after thread showing Liberals complaining about Obama.

Flip flop much?
 
Con's Con's Con's

Yada Yada Yada

:blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:

Yet it is the liberals already giving their guy shit before he even starts his first day officially on the job!

hahahaha :booze:
 
The only ones who ever called him a marxist-lennist, or a whacked out far left liberal were Cons.

But the point remains that the original post cites liberals becoming upset with Obama's picks, so obviously the sentiment that he was left-er than he now seems was present among the left.
 
Kinda progressive like Eisenhower?

I don't know, i am not that old. But it seems much more labor-oriented and forward thinking (he wants infrastructure all updated to be greener and so on) than anything bush did. I can't see Hillary or McCain planting this particular flag if they had won. It certainly isn't status quo.

Hell there are shakeups all over, the strings on the 15 billion are a nice change from the free handout to bernanke and paulson.

Throw the economy into the ditch and I think you can't just keep trudging along, you have to try a few new things, ... progressive.
 
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One day, Obama is a marxist-lennist; the next day Obama is a run-of-the-mill lame mainstream centrist.


Agreed on that point as a generality, it did seem to me that the complaint-of-the-day sure kept changing during the campaign from too inexperienced, to a secret muslim, to an elite, to too celebrity-ish, to too much of a terror risk, to a marxist, with a few others thrown in that I am sure I forgot.
 
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