Liberalism has won(part 2)

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    A few months ago I started a thread about how liberalism has won.

    Of course everyone laughed at me since rebublicans control the senate, the house, and the executive branch.

    The problem of course is that republicans have become progressively more liberal than they once were.

    Every politician in Washington is a big spending big govt. piece of trash. The question is no long should we grow govt. but how much should we grow it. It's no longer should we spend, but how much we should spend. It's getting out of control.

    Stupid nanny state laws are being passed all over the country. Hardcore smoking bans, stupid seatbelt laws etc...

    Our republican controlled federal govt. has taken a lax approach to the border situation. This latest nonsense with the national guard is just window dressing and they know it. They just signed a bill that will give social security benefits to illegal aliens. Talk about a stupid concept. "Hey! It's illegal to come here! But you're guaranteed to get great benefits if you make it!"

    Stupid stupid stupid...they take one step forward and 3 steps back with legislation like that.


    OK since you all think I'm some anti-republican liberal let the flaming commence now.
     
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    Where is part 1?
     
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    I told you it was a few months ago...

    I don't know where it is. Probably off in internet oblivion by now.

    Back on topic. There is a reason Bush can't get his tax cuts made permanent. It's simply not feasible. You all can expect massive tax increases within the next 10 years.

    Maybe you should ask yourself some questions. If republicans are for lower taxes and they are holding all the cards then why aren't these cuts already permanent?
     
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    Maybe they don't all think the same way as often accused.
     
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    No...they certainly don't.

    But why would conservatives be against tax cuts?

    Maybe because they aren't actually conservative anymore. Maybe the joke is on people who support the republican party.

    Bottom line: the sooner conservatives in this country wake up and acknowledge that the republican party is no longer fiscally conservative the better. They need to be called to task.
     
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    How about because they aren't feasible when the unchecked Repubs spend money like drunken sailors on their war of choice? Kids who need Pell Grants and Student Loans and people on Medicare/Medicaid shouldn't be the target.... particularly when AARP is the single largest voting block in the country and pork like the "bridge to nowhere" fill the Congressional budget.

    Or maybe it's because people have figured out that the so-called "cuts" only benefit the top 1% of the population and doing away with the inheritance tax only gives a gift to the wealthiest among us since there is already an exemption of about a million dollars anyway.
     
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    The tax cuts benefit more than just the top 1% so you can retract that stupid lie anytime you like.

    The problem is sooner or later the spending is going to catch up with us.
     
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    :blah2:

    Are you paying the tax rate the "top 1%" are? No. Is it fair to tax them at a higher rate on money they earned just to support underachievers and kids that don't want to *gasp* get a job and work their way through school? No.

    And what powerman said .... the cuts benefit more than the top 1% anyway.
     
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    I'm talking about significant benefit. You wanna disagree with me...go right ahead. But I don't lie.... :flameth:

    A few hundred dollars is not a significant benefit.

    Gee...you must've reaped a great benefit from the cut in capital gains taxes, huh?
     
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    The top 1% pays a third of the taxes in the country.

    They're already unfairly overtaxed.

    And the tax rates benefit everyone. At least in the short term.
     

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