Leftists ruin Spain, country turned over to Conservatives or Precursor to US 2012

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    Leftists ruin Spain, country turned over to Conservatives or Precursor to US 2012

    Conservatives won 187 of 350 seats in the parliament. Socialists won 110, their worst ever

    Spanish conservatives won a historically large mandate at the polls Sunday, freeing them to make deep austerity cuts as they struggle to pull the country’s economy out of a tailspin.

    In an election marked by bitter disappointment and desperation over the euro zone’s highest unemployment rate, the Socialists who have led the country since 2004 were cast out from office as many of their staunchest supporters turned elsewhere, according to a national TV exit poll released after the polls closed.
     
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    tapas for the 1% !!!!!
     
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    Would be nice
    but the Leftists left Spain in such bad shape

    I doubt if many can even afford the basics to eat
     
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    Austerity is coming to the US too, or at least it should. I don't get why the GOP won't accept the Clinton tax rates?! That get $800b of the $1.2T and if the dems give a little on entitlements we can get to $4T and save the country.
    My solution is to put limits on Medicare & Medicaid, such that like real health insurance, you only get what you pay for. I have a "maximum lifetime benefit" and medicare & Medicaid need to "ration" benefits or it goes bankrupt.
     
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    Can't argue with you on that. The Leftists sure did ruin Spain. 21% Unemployment? Yikes! They've ruined much of Western Europe. From terribly failed Immigration Policies to terribly failed Economic Policies,they've been a true nightmare. Hopefully the Conservatives can turn things around. I hope so anyway.
     
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    I agree it is coming

    However
    Since Bush ran up an average of $410 billion in deficit spending per year, while Obama is running up an average of $1.413 trillion in deficit spending per year — or $1.003 trillion a year more than Bush, we really need to cut spending first.

    To even back to some pre Papa Obama level of spending is reasonable to start.
     
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    Progressives are fun, until they actually get to run things
     
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    Indeed

    "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
     
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    The magic number is $2T a year. We're currently up to $4T. Its fairly easy to cut back to balance, here is the NYT tool
    Budget Puzzle: You Fix the Budget - Interactive Feature - NYTimes.com

    The problem is entitlements like Medicare, which is why we need to manage eligibility better
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...png/300px-Medicare_and_Medicaid_GDP_Chart.png
     
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    No doubt politicians will wait until they have no choice
     

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