Law Enforcement Makes Plea for More Manpower Along Border

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    I think we the citizens have a different definition of "secure" the border than Washington does. We mean secure it as in "close" it.

    Washington means secure it as in how the Army in WW2 would "secure" a supply bridge. Meaning secure it's status as being open for all to cross it.

    Well, Washington and Obama have indeed secured that border as a crossing point.
     
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    Then how do so many illegal immigrants cross without their knowledge and perpetrate crime against American Citizens? That doesn't follow with being "Secure as in a crossing point."
     
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    Ronald Wilson Reagan passed the largest amnesty bill in this nation's history in order to break the union control of labor in America. He understood how to use illegal Mexican labor to fight domestic political enemies. He was brilliant. His followers, not so much.

    Friends, respectfully, you need to understand something about capital

    Capital loves Mexico because it has no PROFIT KILLING environmental laws.

    Capital loves Mexican labor because it is cheap.

    (the point of capital is to secure a higher return on investment. Cheap labor secures a higher return on investment)

    Globalization was a gift by Washington to American Capital, that is, it gave capital the legal, regulatory, and military support necessary to send American jobs to 3rd world dictatorships. . . because Nike makes a higher return when its sneaks are made for pennies.

    Business doesn't want closed borders. Business wants/needs zero restrictions placed on the flow of capital to the cheapest resource/labor markets. (The power of capitalism cannot be hedged in by silly man-made borders) Even though Slick Willie passed it, Reagan created the blueprints for NAFTA. It was his goal to give American capital access to cheaper operating conditions. The whole point of moving government out of the way is to give capital the FREEDOM to go wherever the cheapest resources are. Capitalism does not tolerate any limits to its productivity, and it does not tolerate borders when those borders limit its access to cheap labor and cheap resources. You should know this. Open borders are the essence of Global Capitalism.

    (When are Republicans going to realize that their party serves capital - which requires open borders? Go into any Walmart and read where the products are made, i.e., 3rd world, dictator-run countries. Capital forms partnerships (and thereby enriches) the very evil doers that "Social Conservatives" are taught to hate. (It's so sad to see these good Americans manipulated by their political party)

    Wake up people! The Great American Lifestyle has been constructed through deep partnerships with terrorist petrol states and communist China. Where do you think we get our energy and consumables? Who do you think buys are debt?

    (When are Republicans going to realize that the mantra "Borders,Language,Culture" is a passifier told to the women and children back on the homeland . . . while the real men do what needs to be done in the outlying colonies so that the idiots live a good life. The left is equally stupid: they drive to Greenpeace rallies with gasoline that men like Chaney had the courage to provide. Why don't Americans understand that the world is a dangerous place with limited resources - and that their leaders have to slaughter some pigs to bring home the bacon . . . ? Why do our Government leaders have to insulate the women, children, and Republicans with feel-good stories about how freedom is on the march?)

    Grow up you imbeciles. Your party leaders don't want closed borders, nor does your economic system. You cannot prevent the merger of capital with cheap labor and cheap resources. If you could limit the raw power of capitalism with a silly fence, than there would be no capitalism. Capitalism cannot be chained-in by some puny nation state; it cannot be domesticated or placed in a patriotic petting zoo, guarded by Civil War re-enactors. It is the most powerful force in the history of the world - and if it wants illegal labor, than it's going to get it, regardless of what your silly Constitution or laws say.

    (Wow. just wow)

    (Will you at least call Sean Hannity and ask why the Republican Leadership and media never talk about Reagan's amnesty bill? Will you at least ask why a generation of conservatives are being kept in an artificial idiot-bubble filled with tired cliches and simple narratives about freedom. Tax cuts don't turn into American jobs. This isn't the 50s when he Liberals kept capital home. Grow up. Tax cuts enable business to buy more politicians so that they can ship more jobs to 3rd world evil-doer countries . . . (because that is where the highest returns are). Everyone knows this except for Republican voters)

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    Don't you people get it?

    Californian Business invests heavily into a machine called movement conservatism (which converts business profits into political outcomes)

    Here is what the machine does.

    It quietly opens the borders so that business can enjoy a surplus of ultra-cheap labor - so it isn't beholden to expensive American labor, especially unions. Call it "Reagan's Gift to Big Business"
    A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants : NPR

    Then (wait for it) that same machine pours money into talk radio, which (wait for it) agitates republicans with chants of "Borders,Language,Culture".

    You see how it works?

    In the back of the house The Party of Reagan - obeying capital's need for cheap labor - screws the American worker (and destroys California in the process), then (wait for it) The Republican Machine scares the "useful idiots" into the voting booth by demonizing the very illegals they let in. They do this by blathering about the Real America and our Sacred Borders... (which Real America & Sacred Borders profit-makers cannot afford to care about because capital requires open borders in order to access cheap labor and resources, which requirement necessarily takes it beyond the quaint borders of the nation state)

    [Have Republicans seriously never studied the relationship of capital and cheap labor? Do they know how surplus capital is created?]

    We saw a similar shell game with oil. Carter said we need to replace terrorist crude with alternative energy (or at least greatly reduce our dependence on petrol-chemicals). Reagan calls him crazy; convinces the nation that the Middle East is fine; AND THEN (wait for it) sells weapons to Iran; AND THEN (wait for it) removes Iraq from the list of terrorist nations, AND THEN (wait for it) increases our support of Saudi Arabia tenfold; AND THEN (wait for it) Bush wins a second term because he's fighting the same evil doers that Carter begged the Right to abandon over 30 years ago.

    Brilliant.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran–Iraq_war

    Thanks Ronnie!
    In 1982, the Reagan administration removed Iraq from a list of countries believed to support international terrorism. The decision lifted a ban on U.S. trade with Iraq, opening the way for eight years of American military and economic aid that ended only when the Iraqis invaded Kuwait in August 1990.

    (psst: it's on the public record)
     
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    Sorry Sheriff Joe is busy checking on Obama's birth certificate. Call back later.
     
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    the us border patrol shouldn't have to ask for more help. they should be getting it from the national guard. if you check the constititution of the United States of America, you will see that they designed the natiolan guard to guard the nation. this means that they should be stationed along all the borders of the USA. second, if the federal government isn't going to enforce the immigration laws of this country, then they need to step aside and not interfere with the states who are enforcing the immigration laws of this country. the govener of new mexico said it best when she said," my great grand father came to this country illegally, but he got a job, paid his taxes, and even served in the army for this country. nut i still think that we should close the border." so take that you bleeding heart liberals and stuff it up yours and obamas rear end. enough said there/
     
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