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So 0bama taxed folks with middle and lower class incomes with this bill. You must be so proud. I especially like the part where you get hit with it even for being without coverage for a day.
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So 0bama taxed folks with middle and lower class incomes with this bill. You must be so proud. I especially like the part where you get hit with it even for being without coverage for a day.
I hope those of you who are against this insurance mandate realize that's only in there because the insurance companies lobbied heavily to get put in there. Obama didn't want this, in fact originally he wanted to get rid of the insurance company involvement all-together through a single-payer system. But nope, repubs didn't want that either.
Face it, you'll complain no matter what Obama does.
I hope those of you who are against this insurance mandate realize that's only in there because the insurance companies lobbied heavily to get put in there. Obama didn't want this, in fact originally he wanted to get rid of the insurance company involvement all-together through a single-payer system. But nope, repubs didn't want that either.
Face it, you'll complain no matter what Obama does.
Yeah, he wanted completely socialized medicine, with absolutely no free-market involvement. Face that fact.
And yes, as long as Obama is a progressive Socialist, I will complain about everything he does.
I hope those of you who are against this insurance mandate realize that's only in there because the insurance companies lobbied heavily to get put in there. Obama didn't want this, in fact originally he wanted to get rid of the insurance company involvement all-together through a single-payer system. But nope, repubs didn't want that either.
Face it, you'll complain no matter what Obama does.
Do you have any frigging idea what Obama's plan would have done to the economy? Think of the frigging unemployment numbers that plan would have caused would 30% unemployment be out of the question? I don't think so. Everyone in the Health Insurance Industry (not just the hated CEO's) would have been out of jobs and a large percentage of people who's jobs are tied in with that industry as well.
Immie
I hope those of you who are against this insurance mandate realize that's only in there because the insurance companies lobbied heavily to get put in there. Obama didn't want this, in fact originally he wanted to get rid of the insurance company involvement all-together through a single-payer system. But nope, repubs didn't want that either.
Face it, you'll complain no matter what Obama does.
Do you have any frigging idea what Obama's plan would have done to the economy? Think of the frigging unemployment numbers that plan would have caused would 30% unemployment be out of the question? I don't think so. Everyone in the Health Insurance Industry (not just the hated CEO's) would have been out of jobs and a large percentage of people who's jobs are tied in with that industry as well.
Immie
It's good to know that your main concern is for the insurance companies and not the actual health and well-being of the citizens of our country. Very patriotic of you.
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
The entitlement crowd is always more concerned with living and less about a job. Mean while, the life they have become acustomed to is paid for with the money and LIFE of someone working under high stress and 55 hours a week. Let him or her die early.
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
You make a decent argument there. However, America is not some third world country where people go without medical care. Even the poorest of us get needed care. If we were like say, Ethiopia or The Sudan, I might agree with your point. But we are not like those places.
Thirty percent unemployment would be a disaster on this country and most especially on those who are poor and needy now. I think the results of Obama's plan would be a catastrophe for this country both economically and medically and that is why it frightens me.
Immie
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
You make a decent argument there. However, America is not some third world country where people go without medical care. Even the poorest of us get needed care. If we were like say, Ethiopia or The Sudan, I might agree with your point. But we are not like those places.
Thirty percent unemployment would be a disaster on this country and most especially on those who are poor and needy now. I think the results of Obama's plan would be a catastrophe for this country both economically and medically and that is why it frightens me.
Immie
I'm not saying people go without care here, it's just how the care is administered that is wrong. Insurance companies are allowed to dictate too many decisions in the healthcare process, which ultimately boils down to economic factors. I don't think someone living or dying should be a financial decision and left up to insurance companies to decide. It's certainly better here then 3rd world countries, but compared to the rest of the developed nations we are severely behind.
Consider me crazy but I think people actually being able to live is slightly more important then whether or not they have a job. If they're dead, they can't work anyway.
You seem to be more concerned with economics of it, where as I am more concerned with the fact that if someone is sick and can't get proper medical care then a job really isn't the most important thing in life.
The entitlement crowd is always more concerned with living and less about a job. Mean while, the life they have become acustomed to is paid for with the money and LIFE of someone working under high stress and 55 hours a week. Let him or her die early.
So the only people who benefit from reducing the strength of insurance companies are unemployed losers? So what you're saying is you really have no understanding of what happens in the real world of medical care and the insurance system.
The entitlement crowd is always more concerned with living and less about a job. Mean while, the life they have become acustomed to is paid for with the money and LIFE of someone working under high stress and 55 hours a week. Let him or her die early.
So the only people who benefit from reducing the strength of insurance companies are unemployed losers? So what you're saying is you really have no understanding of what happens in the real world of medical care and the insurance system.
So NOW you want the real world? The one in which medical services have to be padi for with money? That real world? Most people get their money from a job. Sort of all interrelated huh? You are the one who limited it to unemployed losers. You also ignored the life shortening effects of paying for others under your plan.
So the only people who benefit from reducing the strength of insurance companies are unemployed losers? So what you're saying is you really have no understanding of what happens in the real world of medical care and the insurance system.
So NOW you want the real world? The one in which medical services have to be padi for with money? That real world? Most people get their money from a job. Sort of all interrelated huh? You are the one who limited it to unemployed losers. You also ignored the life shortening effects of paying for others under your plan.
Ok, I can tell that you are beyond reason so I will just say this. You are so concerned that your money is going to pay for others medical services?? Well when someone uninsured goes to the hospital now, they still get treatment, who do you think pays for that visit? The hospital? The insurance company eats the cost? No....you do, I do, we all have to absorb that cost through higher insurance rates and increased doctors charges.
Please try to think big picture and not just how your wallet is impacted at this very minute.
So NOW you want the real world? The one in which medical services have to be padi for with money? That real world? Most people get their money from a job. Sort of all interrelated huh? You are the one who limited it to unemployed losers. You also ignored the life shortening effects of paying for others under your plan.
Ok, I can tell that you are beyond reason so I will just say this. You are so concerned that your money is going to pay for others medical services?? Well when someone uninsured goes to the hospital now, they still get treatment, who do you think pays for that visit? The hospital? The insurance company eats the cost? No....you do, I do, we all have to absorb that cost through higher insurance rates and increased doctors charges.
Please try to think big picture and not just how your wallet is impacted at this very minute.
The costs go up under the new system, so it makes things worse. Further, it will cause rationed care and it still reduces my life expectancy. How's that for the big picture socialist?
Ok, I can tell that you are beyond reason so I will just say this. You are so concerned that your money is going to pay for others medical services?? Well when someone uninsured goes to the hospital now, they still get treatment, who do you think pays for that visit? The hospital? The insurance company eats the cost? No....you do, I do, we all have to absorb that cost through higher insurance rates and increased doctors charges.
Please try to think big picture and not just how your wallet is impacted at this very minute.
The costs go up under the new system, so it makes things worse. Further, it will cause rationed care and it still reduces my life expectancy. How's that for the big picture socialist?
Please tell me how your life expectancy will be reduced? I'd LOVE to hear this.
The costs go up under the new system, so it makes things worse. Further, it will cause rationed care and it still reduces my life expectancy. How's that for the big picture socialist?
Please tell me how your life expectancy will be reduced? I'd LOVE to hear this.
I have to work longer in order to support the freeloaders. That work creates stress and wear and tear on me. It shortens a person's life. Are you really this ignorant? Thanks for not denying your a socialist. I appreciate the honesty.
Please tell me how your life expectancy will be reduced? I'd LOVE to hear this.
I have to work longer in order to support the freeloaders. That work creates stress and wear and tear on me. It shortens a person's life. Are you really this ignorant? Thanks for not denying your a socialist. I appreciate the honesty.
LOL, that's fantastic. I guarantee there are millions of people who don't have insurance or minimal coverage that work way harder then you ever will. I love that the only thing you are worried about is protecting your own wallet and having to work harder.
And I ignored your name calling. Stooping to that level only shows where your mindset is and I don't feel the need to humor such childish behavior. But thanks for displaying it for everyone else to see.
Do you think those citizens who work for the health insurance industry are all foreigners?
Do you think those citizens who work for the health insurance industry are all foreigners?
Why should they get priority over others?