Kremlin Signals a Harder Line on Relations With the U.S.

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    MOSCOW -- Russian President Dmitry Medvedev struck a Cold War tone on Tuesday, pledging to press ahead with an ambitious rearmament program in response to what he described as NATO's military expansion close to Russia's borders.

    His hawkish comments come ahead of his first meeting with President Barack Obama early next month at the Group of 20 meeting, and were paired with even tougher rhetoric from Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov. Mr. Serdyukov accused the U.S. of trying to push Russia out of its traditional sphere of influence -- the former Soviet Union -- in order to secure raw materials and energy supplies.

    Analysts said the comments were designed to send a signal to Mr. Obama that the Kremlin wouldn't be an easy negotiating partner.

    "It's more a message to America: Don't take us for granted," said Nikolai Zlobin, a senior fellow at the World Security Institute, a Washington think tank. "Medvedev is trying to create leverage and certain spaces that he can give up later, calling it a compromise."

    The U.S. reaction was muted. Obama administration spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Tuesday that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization "is a collective defense organization. I think to suggest that it poses an offensive military threat is simply wrong."

    Mr. Gibbs said Mr. Obama "looks forward to meeting with President Medvedev in London at the beginning of the G-20 economic summit" in April.

    The Obama administration has said it hopes for a qualitative improvement, or "reset," in U.S.-Russia relations, which have been severely strained in recent years. On the agenda: a key nuclear-arms control treaty, Iran's nuclear program, NATO enlargement, and a possible U.S. missile-defense shield in Eastern Europe.

    "I have not heard any alarm in this building about any proposed Russian buildup of its military," said Department of Defense spokesman Geoff Morrell. "We enjoy a good military-to-military relationship with the Russians. ... As long as we have a good dialogue and a good understanding of what we are both developing our militaries for, I don't see that it poses a problem or a threat."

    U.S. foreign policy in the former Soviet Union is also at issue, and Tuesday's comments from Moscow appeared to be a reference to Georgia, against which Russia fought a short, victorious war last summer. The U.S. supplied Georgia with military training and uniforms, while former President George W. Bush was a vocal supporter of U.S.-educated Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili.

    The Kremlin appears to want Washington to know it has neither forgotten nor forgiven that backing.

    "Active support was given to the processes aimed at pushing Russia out of the sphere of its traditional interests," Mr. Serdyukov said in his speech to Russia's top military officers in Moscow.

    At the same event, Mr. Medvedev pledged to stay the course with a large-scale rearmament program for the army and navy, to begin in 2011. He promised more military exercises, more and better Russian-made military hardware, and a revamped strategic nuclear rocket force.

    The Russian president also vowed that the financial crisis roiling Russia wouldn't affect already-budgeted military upgrades. This year, Russia is spending a post-Soviet high of 1.5 trillion rubles, or about $43 billion, on new weapons.

    Kremlin Signals a Harder Line on Relations With the U.S. - WSJ.com
     
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    Great another area I'm sure Obama will screw up in.
     
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    this is the direct product of the missle shield *wink wink* in eastern Europe. I don't recall that being a democratic platform...
     
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    In other news today, the sun rose.
     
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    I realize that you find threads that are not actively looking to suck your zionism off a little boring, davey, but you might want to pay attention given who you hope will pounce on iran for you (America) while Russia is basically nullifying our zionist support by giving Iran anti aircraft weapons. I know, I know.. thinking three steps ahead isn't NEARLY as fun as crying antisemite while petting the yarmulke of your team mates but...
     
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    I know this requires a bit of thought, but might if not be possible that the "missile shield" itself is a US response to Russian actions....or inaction....or both.

    Consider, Russia has been a constant block to the prevention of development of nuclear weapons in Iran. Perhaps the missile shield was put up to nudge them off of that position. We'll leave aside their exhibition of last year since the shield was clearly in motion before then.
     
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    of COURSE it's always someone elses fault! After all, we always hear about russia try and put a "missle shield" in Cuba, don't we?

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    hey, dude.. believe it or not sometimes your own shit DOES, in fact, stink.
     
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    How is it "my" shit? I don't have a missile shield. All I'm saying is that sometimes people fail to look beyond the first degree when trying to ascribe causation.

    Now, there could be something the US did to Russia to cause it to be intransigent on the Iran issue. Or, it could be pursuing its own agenda. What the "blame America first" crowd fail to understand is that other countries contain their own assholes with fucked up ideas and are hellbent on seeing them through. So not everything relates or happens as a result of something the US does.
     
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    Dude, we spent no less than three fucking years during the bush administration knowing damn well that Russia was reacting negatively to that missile defense shield *wink wink*. HOW, you ask? Because we were told at every step BY RUSSIA.

    Watching you people cry foul NOW is a fucking joke.


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    'In this case Russia will be forced to react, and not only through diplomatic demarches (procedures)'.

    The latest war of words is certain to increase tensions between Russia and the U.S., which have already been heightened by Moscow's decision to invade Georgia and take control of the breakaway province of South Ossetia.
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    Condoleezza Rice faces Russia over missile shield plan
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    Like I said, mr rose smelling shit, this was a predictable situation brought about by nothing less than the SOLE disregard of Condi-type Americans thinking that they are holier than the rest of the world. You'll discover how stupid the "oh noez, it's a blame america firster" shit is during this next nuclear infused cold war after Russia, Venezuela and Iran install their own missile defense shield *wink wink* in Cuba.
     

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