PoliticalChic
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In the South, I assume you mean. Any black Republicans were, of course, willing to embrace the Democrats due to Civil Rights, along with any sympathetic non-blacks. Also, in the post-war years, building projects lured a lot of northern Liberals down from the north for the building projects, and they brought their Liberalism with them; the shift happened more quickly and drastically in states that were awarded a lot of federal projects for that reason.
1. There were plenty of southern integrationists. They were Republicans.
2. 1966- pro-integrationist Republican Winthrop Rockefeller won Arkansas, replacing Clinton-pal Orval Faubus.
3. 1966 Republican Bo Calloway ran against Democrat Lester Maddox, who “gained national attention for refusing to serve blacks in his popular cafeteria near the Georgia Tech campus. Newsmen tipped off about the confrontation reported how restaurant patrons and employees wielded ax handles while Mr. Maddox waved a pistol. …” Research - Articles - Journals | Research better, faster at HighBeam Research
a. Maddox was endorsed by Democrat Jimmy Carter in the above governor’s race. When the race was too close to call, the Democrat state legislature gave it to Maddox.
b. Calloway appealed to the Supreme Court….but the court upheld the legislature’s decision.
c. On that very Supreme Court was former KKK member Justice Hugo Black.
d. Democrat Hugo Black was Democrat FDR’s first appointee, in 1937. This KKK Senator from Alabama wrote the majority decision on Korematsu v. US; in 1967, he said ‘They all look alike to a person not a Jap.” Engage: Conversations in Philosophy: "They all look alike to a person not a Jap"*: The Legacy of Korematsu at OSU
e. And, Hugo Black's anti-Catholic bias, which showed up in his actions on the Supreme Court:
"... Black was head of new members for the largest Klan cell in the South. New members of the KKK had to pledge their allegiance to the “eternal separation of Church and State.”... Separation was a crucial part of the KKK’s jurisprudential agenda. It was included in the Klansman’s Creed..."
Egnorance: Hugo Black and the real history of "the wall of separation between church and state"
f. Liberal historian Eric Foner writes that the Klan was “…a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party…” Foner, “Reconstruction: America’s Unfinished Revolution, 1863-1877,” p. 425
g. "The night riders move through the darkness, white against the black road....they go about their business, their horsed draped, guns and bullwhips banging dully against saddles.
....this is the South Carolina of the 1870s, not of the turn of a new millennium, and the night riders are the terror of these times. They roam upcountry, visiting their version of justice on poor blacks and the Republicans that support them, refusing to bow to the requirements of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments."
From the novel "The White Road," by John Connolly
4. 1966- Republican Spiro Agnew ran against Democrat segregationists George Mahoney for governor of Maryland. Agnew enacted some of the first laws in the nation against race discrimination in public housing. “Agnew signed the state's first open-housing laws and succeeded in getting the repeal of an anti-miscegenation law.” Spiro Agnew - Wikipedia
5. 1957- Democrat Sam Ervin, another liberal luminary, instrumental in the destruction of anti-communist Republicans Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon, told his fellow segregationists, and who led the Watergate investigation, said of the 1957 civil rights bill: “We’ve got to give the goddamned ******* something. We’re not gonna be able to get out of here until we’ve got some kind of ****** bill.’ Robert Caro, “Master of the Senate: The Years of Lyndon Johnson,” xv.
First of all, I saw the Bill Clinton list the first time you posted it. That's a case built on association - he was listed on 1992 lawsuit because he was the Governor of the state at the time, and you assume among other things that because he had cordial relationships with Faubus, Fulbright, and the United Daughters of the Confederacy that he must share their views. That is, to put it simply, not how politics works.
On to this one.
1. There were almost no Southern Republicans in the post-war years. In 1956, the Senate from the 11 former Civil War states had zero Republicans, and the House had six Republicans to 100 Democrats, most of which were arch-conservatives segregationalists.
2. Yes, 1966 is right in the middle of the shift. Winthrop Rockefeller was more Progressive than most Republicans who replaced old-school Democrats like Faubus, reflecting the beliefs of Arkansans at the time, but he was just what I'm talking about.
3. a-e. Callaway also supports my theory. He was a super-Conservative and former Democrat who switched parties and won a House seat as a "Goldwater Republican" in 1964. It so happens that the seat he vacated in order to run for Governor (oops) was one of four Conservative Republican seats that reverted to Conservative Democrats in 1966, but in other parts across the South, seven others went the other way, plus one Senate seat.
f-g. This is whiplashing us back to the 19th century. We all know that there were a lot of Klansmen among Civil War era Southern Democrats. I don't get the relevance.
4. Although I've been concentrating mostly on the formerly CSA states of the South, Agnew also first the bill of a Republican, in his case a Moderate to Conservative one, who replaced a Segregationalist Southern Democrat in Mahoney. Again, 1966 is right in the middle of the shift. You're supporting my case.
5. Ervin was not a liberal. He had more admiration among Liberals than most of his Southern Democrat colleagues for some of his civil liberties opinions, but he opposed Brown v Board, he signed the Southern Manifesto, and believed that the 14th Amendment only applied to whites. He was another Segregationalist Conservative Southern Democrat, and I don't quite understand how that quote, which does not surprise me at all, counters anything I wrote.
I'll be in and out this weekend but will be happy to respond to as much as I can.
You left out so very many of the indicia that proved that Bill Clinton is a life-long racist, that you basically admitted the fact.
And, by extension, that his party is the same.
Excellent.