Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists

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    Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists

    In a case that raises questions about online journalism and privacy rights, the U.S. Department of Justice sent a formal request to an independent news site ordering it to provide details of all reader visits on a certain day.

    The grand jury subpoena also required the Philadelphia-based Indymedia.us Web site "not to disclose the existence of this request" unless authorized by the Justice Department, a gag order that presents an unusual quandary for any news organization.

    Kristina Clair, a 34-year old Linux administrator living in Philadelphia who provides free server space for Indymedia.us, said she was shocked to receive the Justice Department's subpoena. (The Independent Media Center is a left-of-center amalgamation of journalists and advocates that – according to their principles of unity and mission statement – work toward "promoting social and economic justice" and "social change.")

    The subpoena (PDF) from U.S. Attorney Tim Morrison in Indianapolis demanded "all IP traffic to and from www.indymedia.us" on June 25, 2008. It instructed Clair to "include IP addresses, times, and any other identifying information," including e-mail addresses, physical addresses, registered accounts, and Indymedia readers' Social Security Numbers, bank account numbers, credit card numbers, and so on.

    "I didn't think anything we were doing was worthy of any (federal) attention," Clair said in a telephone interview with CBSNews.com on Monday. After talking to other Indymedia volunteers, Clair ended up calling the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco, which represented her at no cost.

    Under long-standing Justice Department guidelines, subpoenas to members of the news media are supposed to receive special treatment. One portion of the guidelines, for instance, says that "no subpoena may be issued to any member of the news media" without "the express authorization of the attorney general" – that would be current attorney general Eric Holder – and subpoenas should be "directed at material information regarding a limited subject matter."

    Still unclear is what criminal investigation U.S. Attorney Morrison was pursuing. Last Friday, a spokeswoman initially promised a response, but Morrison sent e-mail on Monday evening saying: "We have no comment." The Justice Department in Washington, D.C. also declined to respond.

    Justice Dept. Asked For News Site's Visitor Lists - Taking Liberties - CBS News
    I dont consider indymedia a news source, more of a pornography site never the less
    How radical must this administration get before the koolAid goes sour?
    I know Buuuuuush........! Beeeeeck.....!
     
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    This is the bullshit I was warning about with Obama's push into the net. ;) ... and you all thought I was just being paranoid.
     
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    Well thank god this thread got moved into the desolation of the law forum
     
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    Meh ... it's not desolate here ... depending on the time of day. ;)
     
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    It got some eyes , not much commentary, this is how liberty dies to a resounding meh.
     
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    Not me.
     
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    Simply not true. MOST people use the new post search function which shows threads regardless of which forum they are in. Are you claiming that people on this board, after using the new post search selectively chose what to read based solely on what forum it is in?
     
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    I don't. I usually just hit new posts, or if I'm tracking a topic I choose the forum itself.
     
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    I use "active topics".

    But from what I can tell it really does the same thing. Although "active topics" has a longer list.
     
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    I find this troubling. We are losing our liberty by the fraction of an inch every day....pretty soon we'll have dissolved into tyranny and we'll wake up and wonder how it happened.
     
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