Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of Trump classified documents case

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Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case​

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David Knowles
·Senior Editor
Wed, March 13, 2024, 5:46 PM CDT·

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought by special counsel Jack Smith stemming from his handling of classified documents.

www.yahoo.com

 

[BluesLegend]

Dismiss, then charge, convict and jail the DA.

 

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God is amazing, Glory Hallelujah

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Merrick Garland is a dangerous radical left extremist AG.

 

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Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case​

Yahoo News' succinct daily update on the criminal and civil cases against the 45th president of the United States.​

David Knowles
·Senior Editor
Wed, March 13, 2024, 5:46 PM CDT·

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought

Trump legal news brief: Trump set to attend hearing as Judge Cannon weighs dismissal of classified documents case

Former President Donald Trump is expected to attend a Thursday hearing in Judge Aileen Cannon’s Florida courtroom on whether to dismiss the felony charges against him brought by special counsel Jack Smith stemming from his handling of classified documents.

www.yahoo.com

From the story:

• Trump is expected to attend Thursday’s hearing at which Cannon, a Trump appointee, will hear arguments on whether the Presidential Records Act enabled Trump to designate classified documents as personal items upon leaving the White House at the end of his term, ABC News reported.

It does, in plain English, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

• “President Trump was still the President of the United States when, for example, many of the documents at issue were packed (presumably by the GSA), transported, and delivered to Mar-A-Lago,” Trump’s attorneys wrote in a filing to Cannon.

That's a fact, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

• Smith’s team countered in their own filing that Trump’s argument is simply that he is above the law.

That is a sophomoric argument, that holds no legal weight at all, so Smith will lose on that point.

Trump's lawyers are not asking that he be above the law, they ask that the law be followed. The Democratic Prosecution team wants the law ignored and Trump convicted for being a big ol' orange meanie.

 

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From the story:

• Trump is expected to attend Thursday’s hearing at which Cannon, a Trump appointee, will hear arguments on whether the Presidential Records Act enabled Trump to designate classified documents as personal items upon leaving the White House at the end of his term, ABC News reported.

It does, in plain English, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

• “President Trump was still the President of the United States when, for example, many of the documents at issue were packed (presumably by the GSA), transported, and delivered to Mar-A-Lago,” Trump’s attorneys wrote in a filing to Cannon.

That's a fact, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

• Smith’s team countered in their own filing that Trump’s argument is simply that he is above the law.

That is a sophomoric argument, that holds no legal weight at all, so Smith will lose on that point.

Trump's lawyers are not asking that he be above the law, they ask that the law be followed. The Democratic Prosecution team wants the law ignored and Trump convicted for being a big ol' orange meanie.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim

From the PRA.

§2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.

Upon the conclusion of a President's term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President.


(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) 1 of title 5, United States Code);




Declassification doesn't change authorship now does it? So please tell me what plain English in the PRA. Changes Classified documents into personal one's?

 

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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim

From the PRA.

§2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.

Upon the conclusion of a President's term of office, or if a President serves consecutive terms upon the conclusion of the last term, the Archivist of the United States shall assume responsibility for the custody, control, and preservation of, and access to, the Presidential records of that President.


(B) does not include any documentary materials that are (i) official records of an agency (as defined in section 552(e) 1 of title 5, United States Code);




Declassification doesn't change authorship now does it? So please tell me what plain English in the PRA. Changes Classified documents into personal one's?

Yet, the archivists do not literally retain, posses, or in any physical way retain presidential documents.

Nope, documents are packed up and put where the president decides.

It is called, Presidential Libraries

 

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Yet, the archivists do not literally retain, posses, or in any physical way retain presidential documents.

Nope, documents are packed up and put where the president decides.

It is called, Presidential Libraries

I am pretty sure that Bush, Obama and Clinton have classified documents in their presidential records.
That means that Merrick Garland and Jack Smith will also have to prosecute them.
Their whole case against Trump is 100% partisan and election interference.

 

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Dismiss, then charge, convict and jail the DA.

Exactly what would you charge the DA with - doing his job?

 

[SeaMajor7]

Exactly what would you charge the DA with - doing his job?

ELECTION INTERFERENCE

 

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Yet, the archivists do not literally retain, posses, or in any physical way retain presidential documents.

Nope, documents are packed up and put where the president decides.

It is called, Presidential Libraries

Not true.

 

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Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. The Presidential Records Act says that, the moment a president leaves office, NARA gets custody and control of all presidential records from his administration. Nothing in the act says there should be prolonged “talk” or a negotiated “agreement” between a former president and NARA over a former president’s return of presidential documents – much less that there should have been a months-long battle after NARA first contacted Trump’s team in 2021 to try to get some of the records that had not been handed over at the end of his presidency.

Jason R. Baron, former director of litigation at NARA, told CNN in an email on Tuesday: “The former President is simply wrong as a matter of law. As of noon on January 20, 2021, when President Biden took office, all presidential records of the Trump Administration came into the legal custody of the Archivist of the United States. Full stop. That means no presidential records ever should have been transferred to Mar-a-Lago, and there was no further talking or negotiating to be had.”

Timothy Naftali, a CNN presidential historian, New York University professor and former director of the Richard Nixon presidential library, described Trump’s claim as “nonsense” and said the former president’s description of the Presidential Records Act is “a matter of fantasy,” concocted to allow Trump to “pretend that he’s a victim.”

The act, Naftali said in a Tuesday interview, makes clear that documents Trump had at Mar-a-Lago are presidential records that legally belong to the public and are legally required to be in NARA’s custody. The act provides “no room for debates and discussions between presidential advisors and the National Archives at the end a presidency” about such records, Naftali said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics/fact-check-trump-presidential-records-act-talk/index.html?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo

There is no legal standing for Trump's claim. But Aileen is Trump's sock puppet who has made previous rulings in his favor that have been overturned. If she does it again the DoJ should seek to have her removed from the case for incompetence and overt bias.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Facts First: Trump’s claims are false. The Presidential Records Act says that, the moment a president leaves office, NARA gets custody and control of all presidential records from his administration. Nothing in the act says there should be prolonged “talk” or a negotiated “agreement” between a former president and NARA over a former president’s return of presidential documents – much less that there should have been a months-long battle after NARA first contacted Trump’s team in 2021 to try to get some of the records that had not been handed over at the end of his presidency.

Jason R. Baron, former director of litigation at NARA, told CNN in an email on Tuesday: “The former President is simply wrong as a matter of law. As of noon on January 20, 2021, when President Biden took office, all presidential records of the Trump Administration came into the legal custody of the Archivist of the United States. Full stop. That means no presidential records ever should have been transferred to Mar-a-Lago, and there was no further talking or negotiating to be had.”

Timothy Naftali, a CNN presidential historian, New York University professor and former director of the Richard Nixon presidential library, described Trump’s claim as “nonsense” and said the former president’s description of the Presidential Records Act is “a matter of fantasy,” concocted to allow Trump to “pretend that he’s a victim.”

The act, Naftali said in a Tuesday interview, makes clear that documents Trump had at Mar-a-Lago are presidential records that legally belong to the public and are legally required to be in NARA’s custody. The act provides “no room for debates and discussions between presidential advisors and the National Archives at the end a presidency” about such records, Naftali said.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/29/politics/fact-check-trump-presidential-records-act-talk/index.html?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo

There is no legal standing for Trump's claim. But Aileen is Trump's sock puppet who has made previous rulings in his favor that have been overturned. If she does it again the DoJ should seek to have her removed from the case for incompetence and overt bias.

SENATOR BIDEN HAD NO LEGAL STANDING FOR POSSESSION OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS!!!!!!!!!
You fucking retarded HYPOCRITES are pathetic.

 

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ELECTION INTERFERENCE

Which election did they interfere in?

To the best of my knowledge the Special Prosecutor filed charges in August of 2023. There was no election or announced candidate at that time. And the alleged crimes were committed two years before that.

Again, to the best of my knowledge Don Trump has not run in an election since November of 2020 and he lost badly in that one.....with an Electoral College landslide, and something like 11 million in the popular vote, if I recall properly.

 

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Exactly what would you charge the DA with - doing his job?

Joe is massively weak in foreign affairs costing us prestige and massive resources. Domestically, he is like a Pope that brings trials and tribulations to his own flock. That is where we are coming from.

 

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From the story:

• Trump is expected to attend Thursday’s hearing at which Cannon, a Trump appointee, will hear arguments on whether the Presidential Records Act enabled Trump to designate classified documents as personal items upon leaving the White House at the end of his term, ABC News reported.

It does, in plain English, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

Presidential Records (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22)

(44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) § 2201. Definitions § 2202. Ownership of Presidential records § 2203. Management and custody of Presidential records § 2204. Restrictions on access to Presidential records § 2205. Exceptions to restricted access § 2206. Regulations § 2207. Vice-Presidential records § Note...

www.archives.gov

The PRA of 1978 no where in plain English say that the President can take classified documents as personal records.

As a matter of fact the PRA clearly defines personal records in it's language and government classified documents are not in the description.

As a matter of fact the PRA clearly defines who owns Presidential Records.

• “President Trump was still the President of the United States when, for example, many of the documents at issue were packed (presumably by the GSA), transported, and delivered to Mar-A-Lago,” Trump’s attorneys wrote in a filing to Cannon.

That's a fact, so Team Trump will prevail on that point.

FPOTUS#45 has not been charged with any action taken while Presidentent so what he did or didn't do as President is irrelevant.

FPOTUS#45 is ONLY charged with actions taken as a private citizen.

• Smith’s team countered in their own filing that Trump’s argument is simply that he is above the law.

That is a sophomoric argument, that holds no legal weight at all, so Smith will lose on that point.

Trump's lawyers are not asking that he be above the law, they ask that the law be followed. The Democratic Prosecution team wants the law ignored and Trump convicted for being a big ol' orange meanie.

You may have missed it, but FPOTUS#45 has claimed Absolute Immunity, that by definition is an attempt to place him above the law.

WW

 

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Yet, the archivists do not literally retain, posses, or in any physical way retain presidential documents.

Nope, documents are packed up and put where the president decides.

It is called, Presidential Libraries

This is false,

Presidential Libraries are private charitable foundations that manage the infrastructure of the library. (Buildings, grounds, offices, etc.)

Records on display are owned and maintained by the NARA. So yes they literally retain, possess or in all cases maintain presidential records even when on display at a library.

WW