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    All you repubcons need to watch this movie, John Q, about a guy who's little boy needs an "elective" heart transplant, and how he can't get any monetary help to cover it.

    Now I put it here, because you all are opposed to any kind of health insurances for Americans, and think somehow your own insurance has you covered if your dad or or your daughter needs an "elective" transplant.

    Well try and rent the video somewhere and laugh your way through it. Because we are talking about real humans, Americans, who your asshole representatives would like to forget exist, so they can pad their own fucking greedy pockets. Watch John Q. THINK!!

     
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    source

    Hey, that's not so bad, is it?

    Not having a sensible HC delivery system is only like inviting a 9-11 death rate to happen about every 3 weeks, every year, year after year, after year after year...
     
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    Oh dear God.

    Not another rush of liberals basing their ideological views on a fictional movie.

    Did the Inconvenient Truth fiction and resulting Global Warming movement blunder not teach you fools anything?

    HOLLYWOOD is FAKE.

    I remember the lib on this board outraged and spewing his anger on this board about the movie WS: Money Never Sleeps, and he was pointing out to notice the lavish paintings, the pure greed, the cars, and how selfish the rich people were. We had to tell him it was fiction.

    Inconvenient Truth. John Q. WS Money Never Sleeps. Hey libs.....Hollywood can't alter reality into what you want it to be.
     
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    What is John Q gonna do when he looks at his bank account, realized he can't afford health insurance still, and then the IRS agenst come knocking to collect the "fine" (aka tax) that he owes Obama now b/c he doesn't have insurance. :cuckoo:

    Hey libs.....if the people who don't have insurance cant afford it..........HOW WILL THEY AFFORD THE FINE FOR NOT HAVING IT???

    If the people who don't have insurance CAN afford it....then what did we need Obamacare for?

    You lefties are so stupid sometimes that I think you may be a danger to yourselves.
     
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    I guess you have no response. Next.................
     
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    Fucking blind, or did your mind take the day off?

    Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by theAmerican Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

    The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.

    “The uninsured have a higher risk of death when compared to the privately insured, even after taking into account socioeconomics, health behaviors, and baseline health,” said lead author Andrew Wilper, M.D., who currently teaches at the University of Washington School of Medicine.

    “We doctors have many new ways to prevent deaths from hypertension, diabetes, and heart disease — but only if patients can get into our offices and afford their medications.”

    The study, which analyzed data from national surveys carried out by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), assessed death rates after taking into account education, income, and many other factors, including smoking, drinking, and obesity. It estimated that lack of health insurance causes 44,789 excess deaths annually.
     
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    Shintao..........I do have a response.

    1- Don't shape your healthcare policy, or any policy, off a hollywood movie and how it made you feel. That never ends well. Ask Al Gore.

    2- If 45,000 people couldn't afford health insurance, how are they gonna afford Obama's fine for not having health insurance?



    And I'll add a third.............among those 45,000 who died because they didn't have insurance, you're doctor source listed hypertension, heart disease, diabetes, etc. Now lets be honest, a large % of that group is minority. Thats a fact.

    How many of them ate horrible diets, smoked, drank alcohol, never exercised????????

    And I'm sure that Obama fine for lack of insurance aint' gonna make their plight any easier.
     
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    But most of all............don't base policy off how a movie made you feel. Never ever ever ever.
     
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    I find it amusing that the charge made is that this thread's author has based his opinions on a movie when that movie is a ficationalized account of a problem that is so well documented by scholars familiar with the statistical reality.

    Yeah just attacking the messangers, folks.

    That'll help.
     
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    What in the wide world of sports are you talking about? A large % of that group is minority? whatever does that mean, and how is it relevant?
     

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